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[Someone here]

@UnbornTao here goes the first one today lol 😂

[UnbornTao]

17 minutes ago, Someone here said:

@UnbornTao here goes the first one today lol 😂

😁 Why won't you let me proselytize to you already? 😡 

[Sugarcoat]

Wait until he tells you to contemplate it too, I can feel it coming 

 

Edited 5 hours ago by Sugarcoat

[Joseph Maynor]

On 5/28/2026 at 10:24 PM, VeganAwake said:

I'm sure it's both, but ultimately it's nothing 🤷‍♂️

I'm not sure what you're trying to say.  Maybe that is your point.

[Someone here]

@UnbornTao

I don’t believe personality is something fixed or intrinsic. In many ways we are not our personality at all. Every action.. reaction..thought  and emotion we experience is shaped by countless factors that lie outside our conscious control like  our genetics.. upbringing ..environment.. diet..sleep quality..hormone levels..blood sugar.. and even seemingly insignificant events from the previous day like what I ate for dinner last night .

All of these variables influence our mood, and behavior. When I’m in a bad mood and someone provokes me..I’m not convinced that the anger I feel is something I consciously create. It seems more accurate to say that anger emerges from a chain of causes and conditions that were already in motion before I became aware of it.

From my perspective..what  we call “personality”  is not an independent entity that freely chooses how to think..feel..and act.  Yeah I know the good ol’ determinism vs free will thing again .If you disagree.. I’d be interested to hear why.

 

[Joseph Maynor]

7 minutes ago, Someone here said:

@UnbornTao

I don’t believe personality is something fixed or intrinsic. In many ways we are not our personality at all. Every action.. reaction..thought  and emotion we experience is shaped by countless factors that lie outside our conscious control like  our genetics.. upbringing ..environment.. diet..sleep quality..hormone levels..blood sugar.. and even seemingly insignificant events from the previous day like what I ate for dinner last night .

All of these variables influence our mood, and behavior. When I’m in a bad mood and someone provokes me..I’m not convinced that the anger I feel is something I consciously create. It seems more accurate to say that anger emerges from a chain of causes and conditions that were already in motion before I became aware of it.

From my perspective..what  we call “personality”  is not an independent entity that freely chooses how to think..feel..and act.  Yeah I know the good ol’ determinism vs free will thing again .If you disagree.. I’d be interested to hear why.

 

So it seems you take an entirely human perspective as to the self?

[Someone here]

2 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

So it seems you take an entirely human perspective as to the self?

What I was saying that “the human self “ doesn’t actually exist in reality as a fixed thing that has its own independent existence or at least it’s an emergent phenomenon which other external factors construct . I’ve talked plenty of time in the past that I easily get angry and triggered when toxic people provoke me .. and people here told me in a Ralston’s style “you are creating the anger . The other person can’t make you angry if you don’t allow them to “ . And I explained above why that doesn’t make any sense to me.

[Joseph Maynor]

9 minutes ago, Someone here said:

What I was saying that “the human self “ doesn’t actually exist in reality as a fixed thing that has its own independent existence or at least it’s an emergent phenomenon which other external factors construct . I’ve talked plenty of time in the past that I easily get angry and triggered when toxic people provoke me .. and people here told me in a Ralston’s style “you are creating the anger . The other person can’t make you angry if you don’t allow them to “ . And I explained above why that doesn’t make any sense to me.

Do you really think this?  

[Someone here]

3 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Do you really think this?  

Yes I do. 

[Joseph Maynor]

7 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Yes I do. 

Then what do you see as the beyond human?

[Someone here]

7 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Then what do you see as the beyond human?

There’s a human being called Joseph. I’m not denying that . What I’m saying this Joseph is not intrinsically independently existing . Air from the outside environment entering your body 24/7. The food you eat create the very physical tissues of your muscles. The podcasts you listen to shape your way of thinking . I’m Indian yet listening and reading content with English has made me literally thinking in English instead of Hindi . Do you see ? “I” am not the creator of what I utter or do . It seems like I’m the emergence of things which are not me . I can’t be blamed 100% for my convictions or emotions. Reality is doing me . I’m not doing reality .