the biggest flaw in the nonduality teachings

[Breakingthewall]

8 hours ago, James123 said:

So where are you in body?  Move fast, save your scared ass. I will see your beautiful process when death comes 😂 

Let's see if I can explain this idea because it's extremely complicated. Look, when I'm alive, I want a good life, and when death comes, I won't care about it anymore... because I will be dead! Crazy right?

Then now, when I'm alive, i don't want being a homeless with sickness and eaten by rats, that's why I work hard in all fields that I can, same than all living beings. Then tell me , oh superior. What would I do? Nothing? Because I'm nothing? Those bullshit could useful for you, maybe you are a millionaire of anything, but most of the people have to move fast and right 

[Mellowmarsh]

7 hours ago, Ziran said:

death and dying are among the greatest mysteries of the human condition

How so, how can death and dying be a mystery, when you already know death is an event that happens to the body?

And yet death is never our actual experience, it’s not like we can be present at our death and then suddenly wake up to be able to confirm death happened to the body for absolute certainty. 
 

We speak about death being a mystery and yet it’s not is it, because doctors are able to observe a human flat lining heart on a machine, the death of a body is known to happen. But it’s not the bodies actual experience.. that’s the only mystery about life and death, is that there’s no one around in the body to witness the birth and death of its body.

 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by Mellowmarsh

[Mellowmarsh]

Okay, so now you’ve figured out there’s no self in a human body. Just as there’s no self there in a newborn baby.

We all arrived to conscious life as a baby absent of a self. 
 

So yeah, the self that appeared later on as the brain developed the capacity to synthetically construct a self because we couldn’t just live our lives not knowing anything at all about anything, we had to know something in order to make sense of why we are alive in the first place. So we became more and more knowledgeable as our brains archived more and more information that it could access when the demand for the knowledge was triggered. 
 

So then if there’s no actual self in the body knowing all this knowledge then that just becomes obvious that knowledge is an illusory hallucination the brain is creating. 
 

So now what, all we’ve discovered is that the self is simulated entity an emergent from the physical body that is made out of empty space. 
 

So now we know what’s going on. Can we just live now like we’ve always done and stop being in conflict with selves that are not here to do battle with.

[Mellowmarsh]

This guy has got this stuff right.. I love Ben so much for making this amazing video.

 

 

 

[James123]

1 hour ago, Mellowmarsh said:

The desire to keep talking about nothing to ghosts. 
 

Let all these ghostwriters agree and have done with it, agree to shut up talking about nothing when there’s nothing to see here, and nothing to talk about. Human self awareness was nature’s cruelest trick, making them know stuff, and at the same time making them want to escape their existential fears of not knowing what death is. Humans know they will die and so seek to end their lives before they actually do die for real. It’s really bazaar behaviour the more I think about it, it’s been bugging me for the longest time. So I was glad this thread was created so I could express my horror of being conscious of torture pain and suffering.
 

Constantly sharing talks about nothing to nothing is pointless, it’s just ego puffing itself up to see who can ruffle up the most puff, it’s mindless nonsense. 

 

Let the words be just words, when the meaning leaves, it will be like breathing, smooth, and writer is written itself.

[James123]

1 hour ago, Breakingthewall said:

Let's see if I can explain this idea because it's extremely complicated. Look, when I'm alive, I want a good life, and when death comes, I won't care about it anymore... because I will be dead! Crazy right?

Then now, when I'm alive, i don't want being a homeless with sickness and eaten by rats, that's why I work hard in all fields that I can, same than all living beings. Then tell me , oh superior. What would I do? Nothing? Because I'm nothing? Those bullshit could useful for you, maybe you are a millionaire of anything, but most of the people have to move fast and right 

Does your body ask you how to breath, function the liver, walk, digest the food? Even mind asks you what to think? It thinks and you listen it 😂

You are a fucking slave, who is constantly getting beat up by mind via listening to it. 😂 And top of that believing to it 😂 

Whatever you do, what will happen will happen. Work and be smart hardest you can, if you will be homeless, you will be. Nothing is under control.

Edited 1 hour ago by James123

[Mellowmarsh]

1 minute ago, James123 said:

Let the words be just words, when the meaning leaves, it will be like breathing, smooth, and writer is written itself.

Then we ought to return to the mute animal we were born as. Pure, without attachment to a fake story, even the story of awakening and enlightenment, and just let all that BS go, flush it all down the shitter where it belongs.

[Mellowmarsh]

3 minutes ago, James123 said:

You are a fucking slave, who is constantly getting beat up by mind via listening to it

You are also the master of that slave, and you can stop beating it anytime you like while you are alive. 

[Mellowmarsh]

34 minutes ago, James123 said:

Whatever you do, what will happen will happen. Work and be smart hardest you can, if you will be homeless, you will be. Nothing is under control.

I understand this so perfectly well, James. Honestly I do.

 

The mind is afraid of losing control of what it was never in control of, and why it’s so difficult for the mind to surrender control. It’s painful for the mind to die. So to speak, I hear you James, I hear you man, okay.

[Breakingthewall]

47 minutes ago, James123 said:

Whatever you do, what will happen will happen. Work and be smart hardest you can, if you will be homeless, you will be. Nothing is under control.

Look, this is very complicated but I think that you have level enough for this revelation: if you don't work, don't make plans, then it's very possible that you arrive to a position where there is no food, no house, no medicines , no friends for you, and you (illusory or not) don't want that.

I still remember when you were crying all day (as it's normal) because your new born son had a heart disease, and sure you bring him to the best doctors that your abundant money could pay,.and do you well. Some people can't do that because they are poor.

Then, what is the purpose of spreading now all this bullshit? If you don't believe In it. You said that you work as a financial analyst right? That is speculation to get money, and you have to do it very thoroughly to keep your work, because are others who want it. Then, why all those lies? Narcissism? Seems clear

Edited 1 hour ago by Breakingthewall

[Breakingthewall]

11 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

The mind is afraid of losing control of what it was never in control of

The mind has a parcel of control that is not small.

[Mellowmarsh]

2 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

The mind has a parcel of control that is not small.

I don’t know what you mean by that. Do you?

[Mellowmarsh]

24 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Then, what is the purpose of spreading now all this bullshit?

Sorry, I couldn’t resist this…

[Mellowmarsh]

Shit happens, and maybe shit is meant to happen…metaphorically speaking..In both nature and personal growth, the things we want to get rid of often contain exactly what we need to thrive.