Learning coding

[shahar uriel]

Hi guys.

I am 30 years old, just finished a degree in a field which I do not want to work in.

I have the opportunity to join a coding bootcamp for free. 4 - 5 months of learning coding like a full time job.

I am afraid that skill will become obsolete in the near future because of AI, hence my dilemma if i should go for it.

Would really appreciate your opinion.

Thanks.  

[shahar uriel]

 @Leo GuraHi Leo. sorry for being rude. would really appreciate your opinion on the subject, since you have prior experience in the field.
 

Edited Thursday at 10:14 AM by shahar uriel

[Lyubov]

I almost went to a bootcamp in 2022 when ChatGPT launched. Here is why I decided to quit on becoming a web developer. It is not easy work, it is mentally challenging, you have to constantly be learning, I did not take to it naturally or find myself to be exceptionally good at it. There are a ton of tech layoffs and remote work is being cut, which is important to me. It's gotten incredibly competitive. If your heart is in it and you believe you will be able to support yourself while learning and land a job after that you can tolerate to support yourself further, go for it. If you are on the fence about it, then it may not be worth the effort. It is not a walk in the park for most people, this is a very competitive field now. You need to be good at it to land a job usually. 

Edited Thursday at 10:43 AM by Lyubov

[bazera]

33 minutes ago, shahar uriel said:

I am afraid that skill will become obsolete in the near future because of AI,

That's already the case, manual coding is becoming obsolete more and more. But building products isn't all about writing code, there are other aspects as well. 

Not sure if it's a good idea to learn now, because AI really disrupted the whole industry, but give it a shot if you feel like it.

Getting a job as a junior has become very competitive as well. There isn't a lot of vacancies available. 

 

[Stick]

You need to be cracked at one sector at coding. That way, you wont be replaced by the generalist AI and be extremely valuable.
I am also thinking about taking machine learning for my Bachelor's degree.

[Oeaohoo]

Funnily enough, I’m a couple of months into a similar course. I don’t see why anyone would want to hire me though as AI can do basically everything I can do and much more quickly… I have heard from other people that demand for junior developers has decreased drastically because of this.

[LastThursday]

@shahar uriel I know it's early stages but you should do it anyway. AI didn't learn from nothing, it learned from human coders. In fact human coders invented the AI in the first place.

For some high level insight into how AI is affecting the industry then this is enlightening:

 

[integral]

I don't see the point in learning coding anymore. It's largely solved by AI. If you learn coding for the next 4 years straight you're not going to be better than the AI is today. And AI is only going to improve from here on.

But a developer is more than coding, you're trying to solve problems businesses have or people have.

You're supposed to know how to ship products and do it well.

AI has not solved any of this and will not come anywere close to doing this job.

Your a product developer, not a software developer and not a software engineer, or coder

Edited 17 hours ago by integral

[bazera]

3 hours ago, integral said:

Your a product developer, not a software developer and not a software engineer, or coder

What do you think, how can we transition more and more into product development in practice, when before the role was clearly defined as front-end developer or backend-developer or whatever, that roles and distinctions are being blurred more and more, and I expect that to continue further.

So when you think of career advancement, what skills are you targeting to master? Like more clear communication with business? More managerial positions, or what?

[integral]

26 minutes ago, bazera said:

So when you think of career advancement, what skills are you targeting to master?

Getting attention. The most valuable thing on Earth right now for a business or for a personal brand or for anything is how much attention you can get.

If you mastered getting attention then no matter what you build you could push it to any audience, and you'll know how to build it for that audience, and you know how to sell it to that audience.

You'll also be Irreplaceable , a company would give you Millions if they knew they could reach a wider audience through you.

There's No Limit now to what you could build, you could build anything you can imagine at this point 10x faster than anyone 3 years ago. 

So solve problems people need, and get eyeballs on it.

Edited 13 hours ago by integral

[bazera]

@integral Yes, when doing your own thing. I meant when you're searching for employment opportunities, not in marketing sector.

As far as your own business goes, I think it's always been the case that getting attention was the hardest part. Even without AI, the trickiest part in solo projects was marketing, not building the actual project.

[integral]

9 minutes ago, bazera said:

I meant when you're searching for employment opportunities,

I ment it for that, know everything you can offer a business, at this point there are no real skills to develop, its a matter of knowing what they need and offering it to them.

The era of developing skills is over.

Next build a impressive portfolio.

Edited 13 hours ago by integral

[bazera]

12 hours ago, integral said:

The era of developing skills is over.

A big chunk of modern skills should be doing creative things with AI, coding or otherwise.