What is best pickup model ?

[Carl-Richard]

18 hours ago, aurum said:

Pickup is NOT just talking to people. Conflating these two things is a mistake.

Pickup is far more involved. And it's more of modern phenomena than something humans have simply always done. Which is why we need modern solutions.

Pickup theory goes far beyond talking. Pickup theory includes feminine psychology, social psychology, logistics, how to find venues, how to work staff, state management, online game, general networking principles and more.

None of this is just obvious. And if it is obvious, then congrats. You are not the audience for learning pickup. But this does not make it invalid for guys who do need it.

Pickup other than a few books from the 70s and 80s is terminally online or antisocial people trying to find a way to not be terminally online by consuming more terminally online content. And because they're terminally online, talking to women is framed as you're this soldier in Vietnam who ventures deep into the jungle on a mission. Meanwhile in the real world, people simply talk to each other and hang out and then things develop from there. Pickup essentially does not exist in the real world. The real world equivalent is "dating".

Pickup is in large part a vehicle for invading a social circle or space. And when you're not a part of the social circle, you're just an invader, you are generally not able to establish lasting meaningful connections, and the whole game becomes about being fast in and out, clinical, transactional, maximizing numbers, not real depth. It's the intersection of antisocial behavior and modern social spaces and — it's cringe to say — capitalist mentality. It's understandable given the times that this is a solution people opt for, but sometimes one should question the solutions that are available.

Edited 1 hour ago by Carl-Richard