Do you believe communism is good?

[Never_give_up]

If we found a way that communism works fine, do you believe is good or bad?

The way I see it it's good, because it's actually everyone has the same money with other people.

Why would someone be against this? 

 

I don't know anything about communism or capitalism, I am completely cluless, so I try to understand better. Maybe I am wrong , maybe I am right, I don't know (I want to learn). 

[aurum]

35 minutes ago, Never_give_up said:

The way I see it it's good, because it's actually everyone has the same money with other people.

This would not be good at all.

Some degree of wealth inequality is important in a society.

[Elliott]

3 minutes ago, aurum said:

This would not be good at all.

Some degree of wealth inequality is important in a society.

Why?

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

Communism is a belief that state is more capable and just distributing wealth/resources than free market. It's just foolish. There's no way you can make a shit idea like that work, I mean just think about it

[Elliott]

18 minutes ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

Communism is a belief that state is more capable and just distributing wealth/resources than free market. It's just foolish. There's no way you can make a shit idea like that work, 

Why?

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

Furthermore, I think the only way to achieve actual communist-like society is throught technological revolution. Namely via A.I. But then the state becomes more of a instrument rather than the commanding centre of power and economy. Other than that, you can maybe have a version of "communism" in shitty small villages and tribal communities lmao But even that is just a maybe. It'd never work on a societal scale in our ussual scarcity conditions

[Elliott]

2 hours ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

 It'd never work on a societal scale in our ussual scarcity conditions

Why's that?

[Hayato]

Communism could work only if all of the people involved are 100% self-responsible in my opinion.

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

42 minutes ago, Hayato said:

Communism could work only if all of the people involved are 100% self-responsible in my opinion.

But capitalism would work even better if all people involved were "100% self-responsible", capitalism is simply always high tier than socialist or communist equivalent of such system could ever be. 

[Elliott]

2 hours ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

But capitalism would work even better if all people involved were "100% self-responsible", capitalism is simply always high tier than socialist or communist equivalent of such system could ever be. 

So, why does that mean communism could never work?

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

43 minutes ago, Elliott said:

So, why does that mean communism could never work?

Ok I'm taking the bait. Btw I'm talking about communism as it always manifested itself in reality, not the way Marx theorized it. So for me, socialism and communism is the same shit and system without hierarchy is impossible. Since you dissagree with this premise and can't "gotcha" me anymore with "you don't understand communism bro", then you might as well skip over the rest of this post.

It could "work" technically, but it'd be pretty shit compared to a functioning capitalistic system. By those standards, any system could "work". State would basically own the means of production and there's this delusion that state is more able to represent the will of the common people and cares about their wellbeing more than the free market. It's the same kind of idea some anti democracy people use with a similiar concept of this "benevolent dicator", this would basically be the benevolent goverment in the case of communism. Capitalism basically democratises means of production and your ability to choose as a consumer. Of course there are people who rise to the top as is the case with any system that ever existed

Edited 1 hour ago by NewKidOnTheBlock