Rape Academy Case

[gengar]

10 minutes ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

Why you say this? Murdering is equaly horrible for both.

Because a woman is more vulnerable to a man.

 

 

10 minutes ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

Wrong

Great argument.


 

 

10 minutes ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

Woman can do all that. I saw those qualities in action in my experience with woman. 

Where did you understand that masculine qualities = women can't do it?

men can and should learn feminine qualities, and women should and can learn masculine qualities, for when they are needed for their own spiritual growth and the growth of society. but only secondarily.

Your liberal worldview has distorted your intelligence so much that you can't even recognize obvious realities anymore. If nazi germany attacks us tomorrow, the men will be responsible to defend the women and the children. This is so obvious to anyone except liberal epistemic perverts.


 

 

10 minutes ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

People like Leo do not respect nor appreciate women at all

This was too harsh and I take it back, my apologies.

Edited 9 hours ago by gengar

[Rafael Thundercat]

13 minutes ago, gengar said:

Because a woman is more vulnerable to a man.

Great argument 🤮 

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DVmtq6PElFE/?igsh=MW03MDVobGV4c294bQ==

By the way, and this is not only for you since you just jumped here in the thread now. This is for all man who enter here. This is not about hating men of any assumption. Of course I am not pro hating men, I am man, this is not a war on men. Dont we talk endlessly about systems? So, how come all men in this Forum dont study Patriarchy Deeply? 

https://www.instagram.com/p/DXXKRmRFLP6/?igsh=ZGR6aWhydWw0aDg=

Many of the problems that you guys bring up here and in many other threads are fruits of Patriarchy. And using only Patriarchy is reductive because this cancer have metastasis and tentacles. 

Women are better to see it since they are the ones in the harm receiving end of it. And of course some benefit a lot by alling with it. Women know it and they the ones who know call out those woman. Today I heard one woman that is againt a law that aim to protect Women. Paradoxal but it shows that Patriarchy is so deep internalized that a Woman goes againt herself to defent it. Is like bug prostesting in favor of insecticide. 

Edited 9 hours ago by Rafael Thundercat

[Leo Gura]

30 minutes ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

have a say on your defence?

I am not going to play these games with you.

I explained how the male sex drive works. Don't shoot the messenger.

You are white-knighting a bit too hard.

Nothing I say is against respect and kindness towards women. Treat them as you would like to be treated.

Edited 9 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Rafael Thundercat]

6 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

You are white-knighting a bit too hard.

White Knight Syndrome is a psychological pattern where an individual feels a compulsive need to "rescue," fix, or save others—particularly romantic partners—often sacrificing their own needs and well-being in the process. Driven by a desire for validation, they often target vulnerable people, leading to codependent, imbalanced relationships. 

Key Aspects of White Knight Syndrome:

Meaning: It is a, often subconscious, urge to solve another person's problems to feel worthy, needed, or to avoid focusing on one's own issues.

Usage Examples:

Constantly offering unsolicited advice, money, or emotional labor to a partner who doesn't ask for help.

Attempting to "fix" a partner with addiction or emotional damage, believing love can change them.

Taking over a partner's responsibilities to make their life easier, resulting in the partner feeling managed rather than supported.

Ignoring personal career, health, or social goals to focus entirely on a partner's crisis.

Synonyms/Related Concepts: Savior complex, Messiah complex, Codependency, "Nice Guy" syndrome, and in internet slang, sometimes referred to as a "simp".

Signs: Carrying the total weight of a relationship, feeling used, ignoring red flags, and creating "damsels in distress" situations.

Origin: Often stems from childhood experiences, such as parentification, where a child had to take care of emotional or practical needs of their partners

Common Subtypes (per psychologists Mary Lamia & Marilyn Krieger):

Overly empathic: Driven by immense empathy to fix others' pain.

Tarnished: Seeking to fix others to avoid facing their own "damage".

Terrorizing/Terrified: Using rescue attempts to manage deep-seated fear and shame. 

While well-intentioned, this behavior can backfire, resulting in resentment, loss of self-worth, and enabling toxic behaviors in the person being rescued

Well, reading this explanation I think your assumptions are totally wrong @Leo Gura

Unless you intented another thing. 

I am fully aware that the problems of this world will not be solved by only me. It make no sense at all. I dont claim this. 

 

[gengar]

3 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I explained how the male sex drive works. Don't shoot the messenger

You did so from a materialist's perspective, which is ironic coming from you.

Man has both a beastly nature of flesh and a loving nature of consciousness. Both are of his nature, and his sex-drive is not merely from the beastly side.



 

 

11 minutes ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

Great argument 🤮 

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DVmtq6PElFE/?igsh=MW03MDVobGV4c294bQ==

What is even your issue dude? I am saying women are more vulnerable because they are less physically strong and its much more of a crime to kill someone like that just like its more of a crime to kill a child. 

And then you proceed to post another article about femicide, again implying that I am in the favour of such wretched things. Who the fuck do you think you are to imply these things about me? If I were with you right now I'd knock your teeth out straight.

 

 

15 minutes ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

Many of the problems that you guys bring up here and in many other threads are fruits of Patriarchy. And using only Patriarchy is reductive because this cancer have metastasis and tentacles. 

You haven't even defined what you mean by patriarchy, although I know what your mean; the comical neo-marxists definition of it. 

A system where good men are the protectors of women against evil men is good and would cause less femicide. Liberal society causes more of it.

[gengar]

1 minute ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

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[Rafael Thundercat]

1 minute ago, gengar said:

If I were with you right now I'd knock your teeth out straight.

This say more about you than about me. 

[gengar]

1 minute ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

This say more about you than about me. 

You implicitly accused me of defending murdering women. you're a sicko.

[Rafael Thundercat]

3 minutes ago, gengar said:

You haven't even defined what you mean by patriarchy, although I know what your mean; the comical neo-marxists definition of it. 

 No, you clearly need to study more about it , go search, get interested. I will not give you a free course on it. There are woman teaching this things and I can recommend their courses and you pay them. Or you want to reach understanding for free? 

[Rafael Thundercat]

Just now, gengar said:

You implicitly accused me of defending murdering women. you're a sicko.

No, you are confuse.

[gengar]

12 minutes ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

 No, you clearly need to study more about it , go search, get interested. I will not give you a free course on it. There are woman teaching this things and I can recommend their courses and you pay them. Or you want to reach understanding for free? 

You can recommend their books or free videos if you want.

[Leo Gura]

Guys, argue your points without personal attacks or insults.

Just because someone has a different view on an issue doesn't make them sick or evil. We need to get beyond such kinds of dialogue.

Edited 8 hours ago by Leo Gura

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

I'd hate to live in some weird matriarchal hivemind, probably would live impoverished as hell. Just based on my observations here, these people have no practical knowledge of anything

[Rafael Thundercat]

3 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Guys, argue your points without personal attacks or insults.

Just because someone has a different view on an issue doesn't make them sick or evil. We need to get beyond such kinds of dialogue.

This is a leftist fantasy. Humans are love to insult and personally attack. You allowed such kinds of dialoge for ages here and you said yourself in the another Thread:

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We have a wide range of views here and I don't like to control anyone's views.

If there are views you dislike, that's diversity, that's democracy. Community naturally comes with weird views that you will dislike.

 

Than in the post about Leftist Fantasy:

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Liberalism holds the fantasy that democracy is an absolute good

If I would Trump my way here in the Forum how would that be? 

Sometimes you are like that children care takers that like to leave kids doing their thing and have fun but then when they start to hit each other you come to applacate " hey stop stop, Guys, argue your points without personal attacks or insults" 

Some people start attacking  rigth away here if you see. Like just entering in the convo with declared intention of disgrutling, derail.

In only 3 interactions @gengar was already into this:

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Did you honestly just try to counter my argument about men and women's roles in society by linking an article about femicide, implying that that is what im defending? You dishonest ghoul.

You know the character? He jumped upon you as well. 

Do you think you will stop this human behavior to happen? You will teach proper ways of dialogue in every new thread? You even grant yourself the rigth to have some fun sometimes. Double-Standarty.

Edited 5 hours ago by Rafael Thundercat

[Lila9]

7 hours ago, gengar said:

In actuality the fascist feminine drive for extremely narrow natural selection of the very strongest and fittest is what is causing our current decline into epistemic poverty, chaos and fascism. "reversed patriarchy" is already our current situation since women completely control the mating market - catalyzed by the perverted dating apps. Motherhood is appreciated in traditional cultures while abhorred in feminist leftists spaces, seeing it as taking away power and autonomy of the woman.

If western society doesn't return the respect of classical masculine qualities - these qualities will only allowed to be celebrated in toxic, andrew-tate esque cultures and society will continue to descend.

This is not true. This is just a justification to remain a low-quality man with a doomer mentality.

What men think women are attracted to and value in men is not what women are attracted to and value in men.

This is why men struggle with dating. They will come up with all sorts of doomerist evolutionary psychology theories, which have never been proven and are pseudoscience, only to avoid listening to women or doing the work to become a man who is actually attractive to women.

[Lila9]

https://celestemdavis.substack.com/p/men-who-like-women

The men who like women and the men who don't. Yes we can tell.

Glenn Powell does. Tom Cruise doesn't. Like is different than love.

A few weeks ago Anne Helen Petersen wrote about what makes actor Glenn Powell so appealing and I have not been able to stop thinking about something she said.

What makes him so appealing? Obviously he’s no eye sore, but Peterson points out that it’s far more than that. She says the main thing that sets Glenn Powell apart from other actors is that he likes women.

But isn’t that pretty basic? Don’t most men like women?

You would think so wouldn’t you, but actually no. Here’s what Peterson says about Glenn’s revolutionary quality of liking women:

“It’s different than knowing you can get women, or wanting to control women, or even loving women. He likes them. He appreciates them. He enjoys their company.”

Specifically the part of the article that keeps running around my mind rent free is this paragraph:

“Tom Cruise doesn’t like women. Neither does Miles Teller. Channing Tatum likes women. So does Ryan Gosling. Brad Pitt used to like women but doesn’t anymore. Leonardo Di Caprio only likes them occasionally. Bradley Cooper doesn’t, George Clooney does. Matt Damon doesn’t, Ben Affleck only does in that one scene in the J.Lo documentary. Marlon Brando didn’t, Montgomery Clift did. Paul Newman didn’t onscreen but did IRL. Cary Grant did, John Wayne definitely, definitely didn’t. Will Smith pretends like he doesn’t but I’m not convinced. Mark Wahlberg absolutely does not, but Daniel Day-Lewis does. So does Paul Mescal.”

Whoa. Mind blown emoji.

I had to set my phone down and chew on this for a moment.

I was taken back by how even though I have never thought of this metric before, I could immediately pick out the pattern in my own life.

Of its own accord my brain started scanning through the men I know. I was shocked how easily I could differentiate between who likes women and who doesn’t:

Doesn’t:

The man Rich and I played pickle ball with this morning who only spoke to my husband and ignored me.

My friend’s husband whom in my presence has never asked a woman a question about her life, who once said women speaking in general conference1 were only good for naps and snacks.

My uncle who after spending every Easter, Thanksgiving and Christmas with my family and I for 18 years, did not know my name.

My last Mormon bishop.

Does:

The man we played pickle ball with who spoke to both my husband and I equally with humor and grace.

My cousin’s husband who listened intently to my feminist soapboxing on a six hour road trip this summer responding with, “Wow, I’ve never thought of it that way before,” and “What was the name of that book again?” (Dan, you’re such a gem)

My uncle who always asks me about what I’m writing whenever I see him.

My second to last Mormon bishop.

Perhaps these are unfairly stark delineations. Perhaps my uncle developed single-issue amnesia. Perhaps I had spinach in my teeth which pickle ball man #1 found so off-putting that he had no choice but to direct all his words to my husband.

But still…. there’s something here. I can’t stop noticing.

It’s in the listening, the curiosity, the respect. It’s in the eye contact. It’s how they speak of other women or speak over women. It’s whether or not they ever read women authors, listen to podcasts hosted by women.

As Anne Helen Peterson put it:

“It’s a lot easier to not be an asshole when you’re not obsessed with performing dominance….. It's palpable in the way Powell looks at all these women — he really, intently focuses on them, which is a surprisingly rare thing onscreen and in real life.”

How is it that so few men like women?

It’s certainly disheartening how rare this quality is in men, but something I read recently in Liz Plank’s book For the Love of Men helps explain why it is that so few men like women.

Through hundreds of interviews she shows how men are penalized for not performing masculinity so early, so often and so intensely that to safely navigate the world, their unconscious north star becomes stuck on “be masculine.”

Kindergarten boys get made fun of at school for liking girly shows like My Little Pony, parents don’t allow their boys to leave the house in girly clothes, teenage boys are ridiculed for having a girly voice.

From the time boys are preschoolers on up through adulthood- the worst thing to be is like a girl. The worst way to run is like a girl, the worst music is girly music, the worst things to care about are the things girls care about, the worst way to act is like a girl.

“The smallest transgression of traditional masculinity, leads to huge, enormous acts of rejection from other men. Often from the men they care the most about.” - Liz Plank

Is it any wonder boys don’t like girls? Is it any wonder they grow up to be men who don’t respect women? When their entire lives they’ve been conditioned to shun all things feminine?

Why would they like the embodiment of everything they’ve been taught to hate?

But don’t men want to be seen as someone who likes women?

Even if it makes sense culturally why they don’t like women, you would like to think men at least want to be perceived as someone who does.

I would like to think that if Tom Cruise or Mark Wahlberg read Anne Helen Peterson’s article, they would be appalled to be listed as men who do not like women.

I would like to think that concern and self-reflection would flood their system upon hearing the news. That they would rush out shoe-less like Ebenezer Scrooge on Christmas morning in their haste to ask the women in their lives if they are feeling heard and respected. That Tom and Mark would immediately seek to course correct and improve, bubbling with urgency to change their ways and start listening to women.

But the unfortunate truth is… successful men have little reason to care if they are perceived as someone who likes women. How they treat women has little to no effect on a man’s career, monetary success, popularity or reputation.

There was no penalty to Brad Pitt’s career when it came out that he hit Angelina Jolie on that plane. Tom Cruise still remains the highest paid actor in the world despite the gross, creepy ways he controlled and treated all three of his wives. David Beckham is hailed as good guy father of the century despite the numerous times he’s been caught cheating.

The sad truth is that men don’t NEED to like or respect women to successfully walk through the world. Not at all.

In men’s daily lives- in their jobs, in their church, in their friend groups- social capital is gained solely through other men.

So they often don’t care if women feel disrespected by them. They care if men respect them. And the price of gaining mens’ respect often comes at the cost of disrespecting women.

And I’m not talking about sexual predators. Our standard for who we call good men is astonishingly low (basically anyone who is not abusing women, but sometimes even then).

Men get to proudly wear that title of “good” man WHILE not respecting women, not listening to women, not liking women. Treating women like an equal is not a requirement for being a good man.

Earlier this year I wrote an article called Never Meet Your Heroes’ Wives. I wrote about how Albert Einstein, the hero of modern physics used his wife’s research without crediting her, was never faithful and then left her to marry his cousin. I wrote about how Carl Sagan, the hero of compassionate atheism hit his wife, about how Gandhi, the hero of nonviolent activism forced naked teenage girls to sleep in his bed.

In order to be a hero in our world, in order to be labeled a good man, in order to be successful, treating women well is simply not a requirement.

I wish it was. I wish Tom Cruise, Brad Pitt and Mark Wahlberg were awash with shame to be seen as not liking women. I wish it was terribly embarrassing for any man to not respect women.

 

[Optimized Life]

On 16/04/2026 at 0:22 PM, Lila9 said:

This is horrible. Women are not safe with men, even if they are “happily” married or seem like “nice guys.”
So many men take an active part in this rape culture.
Women need to have very high standards, be radically picky, and trust their instincts and intuition before ever settling down with a man.
Most men don’t see women as human beings worthy of consideration, they put their ego and lust before our well-being and safety. 

Putting the topic of rape culture aside (not sure why the post deleted but i said, me and 99.9% of men do not follow "rape culture" and having nothing to do with it, but in your paranoid freak brain you probably going to call me and every forum member a rapist now)

You are exactly the type of woman that any man of any self respect avoids and runs away from like the plague. 

Its clear to me from several of your posts that you are mentally deranged, not in an sympathetic way either. 

You obviously have a lot of grudges against men and society and your energy sucks, the way you talk its so over

Imagine dating a woman like you with that vibe, pure fucking hell on earth. 

"Women need to have very high standards" blahblah, because in your narcissistic ego-maniacal brain, women are the only perspective that matters, women are the choosers, women have the "high standards" ect.. but the irony is that actually MEN need to increase their standards, and stop dating ugly parasitic misandrist freaks like you.  Theres nothing normal about the way you talk about men and society, its fucking weird, go get a fucking therapist you freak. 

 

Edited 1 hour ago by Optimized Life

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Guys, please.

Address the argument.

Do not make character judgements! 

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

6 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Guys, please.

Address the argument.

Do not make character judgements! 

But character judgements and attacks are woven into these types of topics. At this point it should be obvious that it's impossible to go without them, maybe you can limit their severity but that's about it

[Lila9]

18 minutes ago, Optimized Life said:

Putting the topic of rape culture aside (not sure why the post deleted but i said, me and 99.9% of men do not follow "rape culture" and having nothing to do with it, but in your paranoid freak brain you probably going to call me and every forum member a rapist now)

You are exactly the type of woman that any man of any self respect avoids and runs away from like the plague. 

Its clear to me from several of your posts that you are mentally deranged, not in an sympathetic way either. 

You obviously have a lot of grudges against men and society and your energy sucks, the way you talk its so over

Imagine dating a woman like you with that vibe, pure fucking hell on earth. 

"Women need to have very high standards" blahblah, because in your narcissistic ego-maniacal brain, women are the only perspective that matters, women are the choosers, women have the "high standards" ect.. but the irony is that actually MEN need to increase their standards, and stop dating ugly parasitic misandrist freaks like you.  Theres nothing normal about the way you talk about men and society, its fucking weird, go get a fucking therapist you freak. 

 

Hahaha thank Goddess you don’t find me attractive. I am so happy.

The last thing I need in my life is the approval of low-quality men who don’t reach my level of integrity, spiritual development, emotional intelligence, and wisdom.

If men with forest creep behavior would have approved of me, I would be so so concerned.