How Do You Relate to Reality, Self, World?

[cetus]

5 minutes ago, LastThursday said:

It sounds potentially exciting. What would that entail from your point of view?

I'd start with becoming more aware during sleep and dream states. There is a treasure trove there waiting to be realized.

[LastThursday]

2 minutes ago, cetus said:

I'd start with becoming more aware during sleep and dream states. There is a treasure trove there waiting to be realized.

Funny you should say that, I have vivid dreams and good recall. I used to maintain a dream diary for a while. I stopped because I was waking in the middle of the night and making quick notes of my dreams, but that was making me tired in the day. I need a better system.

What do you think can be realised from dreams?

[Hojo]

8 hours ago, CARDOZZO said:

After going deep on spirituality and self-actualization, how do you relate to people, reality, mind, society?

I dont, I get my groceries and go to work if people talk to me, we talk if they dont I dont really push anything

What is your baseline consciousness? What it looks like to be you as a normal human being? 

I am shit on the bottom of Gods shoe. My baseline consciousness is low staring not thinking.

Do you see reality as a physical thing? Do you see other people as separate?

I see it as an empty cube.

 

[CARDOZZO]

What I really get from responses here is that everyone is full of shit and fantasies. (including myself)

You watch videos, read, do stuff, practices, self-actualize but you do not walk the talk. You are still a human. Nothing special about it.

You do not ground absolute truth into duality, you see reality as physical, you walk on the streets as zombies - we are basically normies. 

What is the point anyway in doing all that? (Enlightenment/Self-Actualization) 

[CARDOZZO]

We are just addicted to spirituality, self-help and grandiose ideals.

Edited 4 hours ago by CARDOZZO

[CARDOZZO]

I will not blame any teacher, teachings, practices, books or whatever. 

I have full responsibility on that matter. I am just pointing out a deeper issue here that we all have in common. 

Contemplate where you are wrong.

[cetus]

52 minutes ago, LastThursday said:

What do you think can be realised from dreams?

Dreams are the gateway to infinite dimensions within consciousness, so the possibilities are endless.

But for a targeted realization it's often said to set an intention before falling asleep.

Edited 4 hours ago by cetus

[Eskilon]

36 minutes ago, CARDOZZO said:

What is the point anyway in doing all that? (Enlightenment/Self-Actualization) 

You come into this world empty-handed and you are also going empty-handed. Think about all the greatest conquerors and human beings, where are they now? Dust unto dust.

Doesn't this create a great longing in you? That everything is so fleeting and in a sense nothing really matters because it does not last. 

Enlightenment is a journey to(perhaps I dunno) know the deathless, something that truly last and fulfill you. Otherwise you are just a hamster in a wheel -- doing, doing, doing and not accomplishing anything really. From desire to desire, chasing your tail. Ending either in boredom or frustation. Just waiting for Death to take everything from you.

Edited 4 hours ago by Eskilon

[cetus]

How Do You Relate to Reality, Self, World?

Infinite cycles of impermanence.

[CARDOZZO]

23 minutes ago, Eskilon said:

You come into this world empty-handed and you are also going empty-handed. Think about all the greatest conquerors and human beings, where are they now? Dust unto dust.

Doesn't this create a great longing in you? That everything is so fleeting and in a sense nothing really matters because it does not last. 

Enlightenment is a journey to(perhaps I dunno) know the deathless, something that truly last and fulfill you. Otherwise you are just a hamster in a wheel -- doing, doing, doing and not accomplishing anything really. From desire to desire, chasing your tail. Ending either in boredom or frustation. Just waiting for Death to take everything from you.

Just proves my point. 

I'm sick of fantasies, bullshit, never ending self-masturbation. 

If you really think about, survival is a form of self-actualization. What normal people are doing is already self-actualization.

They are chasing stage blue/orange dreams and fantasies. 

[Eskilon]

5 minutes ago, CARDOZZO said:

Just proves my point. 

I'm sick of fantasies, bullshit, never ending self-masturbation. 

If you really think about, survival is a form of self-actualization. What normal people are doing is already self-actualization.

They are chasing stage blue/orange dreams and fantasies. 

I wouldnt quite compare Enlightenment to those other things. But who I am to tell you anything?

Ask yourself this question, would you rather be lucid and know what`s up or not? 

You need patience, the road is long, that`s why almost no one is Enlightened(including people here who preach they are)but if you want, just eat, drink, and be merry until you get bored

Edited 3 hours ago by Eskilon

[Oyashiro]

1 hour ago, CARDOZZO said:

everyone is full of shit

Deepest truth.

[CARDOZZO]

21 minutes ago, Oyashiro said:

Deepest truth.

😕

[Hojo]

@CARDOZZO 

36 minutes ago, CARDOZZO said:

Just proves my point. 

I'm sick of fantasies, bullshit, never ending self-masturbation. 

If you really think about, survival is a form of self-actualization. What normal people are doing is already self-actualization.

They are chasing stage blue/orange dreams and fantasies. 

You are doing it not us. We are dirt. Theres your next door to step through. Meditate on how worthless and shitty you are something will happen.

You taking it as a negative is the boundary to be crossed. There is light at the other side and its total peace.

Stop fantasizing there is no hope.

Edited 3 hours ago by Hojo