The laws of Reincarnation

[TheGod]

What happens to consciousness when its form dissolves be it a rock, an animal or a specific human? How does consciousness chose its next form? Does it use some sort of a rule or it's completely random? 

Life is obviously seems to be unfair because someone takes on a form of a successful billionaire and someone gets born in Nairobi in Africa. Since God is a supreme and intelligent being there must be some kind of fair logic behind it.   

I'm curios to hear your theories and ideas about it, especially if you confirmed them in your direct experience. 

Thank you. 

[Lazarus93]

Well, to know that answer you would have to be in the state of consciousness/Mind you were in before you started dreaming your current form.. which means you would no longer be the body aka dead. The only way to know for certain is to experience that.. but I don't think it's possible to know that while you are dreaming your current life.

If your current life is a game.. the player knows why he or she is playing the game. But reality differs from a game in the sense that while you are in the game, you do not have complete access to the mind of the player (God's Infinite Intelligence). Why not? Because if you did you would fully realize how you are constructing literally everything, your imagination would reach absurd levels, every distinction would collapse and you would lose your human Mind. You would be labelled clinically insane, if you are still alive at that point.

I will say this though: Intelligence, understanding, logic definitely exists as phenomenon we experience. Everything is derived from the Absolute. In which case, the Absolute necessarily has to have these traits as they are derived from it. In other words, you choosing to dream your current life could have been a choice. But also, idk about you, but sometimes I like to gamble like a degenerate. Well, gambling like a degenerate is also a part of God. Therefore, your life could have also been a gamble. So the question is: Did you as God gamble and end up in your life or choose to be in your life? 

Honestly, the answer doesn't matter. You could have done either. If you are asking what you will do after your current life, that's a choice you will make after the dream ends. Maybe you will gamble. Maybe you will choose. Or maybe you will just rest as the absolute for billions of years. Or maybe you will just relive your whole life. At that level of consciousness you could really choose and imagine anything.

Keep in mind, God doesn't necessarily have the same values it does when it is in the highest states of consciousness possible (aka the Godhead) as it does when it imagines the human ego. The distinction between someone born as a billionaire with extremely good looks and someone born in horrible conditions only matters to the ego, when God is lost in the game of survival. In other words, you as God may not necessarily just choose a life which makes for the 'best' experience of survival where you experience the peak of hedonism. Your value system as Infinite Mind may be radically different than yours while you are imagining your current form.

Edited yesterday at 03:26 AM by Lazarus93

[TheGod]

25 minutes ago, Lazarus93 said:

Well, to know that answer you would have to be in the state of consciousness/Mind you were in before you started dreaming your current form.. which means you would no longer be the body aka dead. The only way to know for certain is to experience that.. but I don't think it's possible to know that while you are dreaming your current life.

If your current life is a game.. the player knows why he or she is playing the game. But reality differs from a game in the sense that while you are in the game, you do not have complete access to the mind of the player (God's Infinite Intelligence). Why not? Because if you did you would fully realize how you are constructing literally everything, your imagination would reach absurd levels, every distinction would collapse and you would lose your human Mind. You would be labelled clinically insane, if you are still alive at that point.

I will say this though: Intelligence, understanding, logic definitely exists as phenomenon we experience. Everything is derived from the Absolute. In which case, the Absolute necessarily has to have these traits as they are derived from it. In other words, you choosing to dream your current life could have been a choice. But also, idk about you, but sometimes I like to gamble like a degenerate. Well, gambling like a degenerate is also a part of God. Therefore, your life could have also been a gamble. So the question is: Did you as God gamble and end up in your life or choose to be in your life? 

Honestly, the answer doesn't matter. You could have done either. If you are asking what you will do after your current life, that's a choice you will make after the dream ends. Maybe you will gamble. Maybe you will choose. Or maybe you will just rest as the absolute for billions of years. Or maybe you will just relive your whole life. At that level of consciousness you could really choose and imagine anything.

I always choose to come back from God states because there is nothing just pure eternity forever.

I probably can answer this question from God state if such a question remains there but I don't remember 99% of my God states. The only thing I remember is that I chose to come back and here I am. Why and how I don't remember lol 

Edited yesterday at 03:26 AM by TheGod
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[Lazarus93]

Haha, that sounds about right. I will say though: No matter how high your consciousness gets while you are experiencing being a human, you are still locked in the human imagination as you are still alive.

Upon physical death, I would assume your consciousness would reach levels that you can't even begin to comprehend while you are dreaming your current form, even if you hypothetically took a heroic dose of 50 psychedelics at the same time (if that was even possible). And you may get answers that were previously locked to you while you were in the human state of consciousness. In fact, you would probably get every possible answer in all of existence.

[Osaid]

1 hour ago, TheGod said:

How does consciousness chose its next form?

It doesn't because it already is.

Forms aren't fundamental to consciousness, consciousness is (duh).

In your formulation you're conceding that consciousness stops existing and then starts existing (becomes something else), but obviously no one is conscious of that.

It's all overlooking that consciousness doesn't have a form, that's already too much of an assumption. 

Don't let it be a theory or idea though. 

[TheGod]

19 minutes ago, Lazarus93 said:

Upon physical death,

I remember I was in states where I would transcend physicality my body wasn't biological thing subject to time and death.

I think the question I have now is based of low consciousness  

[Osaid]

1 minute ago, TheGod said:

I think the question I have now is based of low consciousness

It's based on how you're defining yourself (identity). You are always more fundamental than what you think you are, though.

[TheGod]

16 minutes ago, Osaid said:

It doesn't because it already is.

Forms aren't fundamental to consciousness, consciousness is (duh).

In your formulation you're conceding that consciousness stops existing and then starts existing (becomes something else), but obviously no one is conscious of that.

It's all overlooking that consciousness doesn't have a form, that's already too much of an assumption. 

Don't let it be a theory or idea though. 

Sorry, the language isn't being very helpful here.

Consciousness isn't going anywhere it's just changing constantly, taking on new forms.

My question is this, when I am in my room I have consciousness in a form of a dog and when I go outside I see a homeless guy.

Is it the same consciousness that changed it's form from the dog to this guy?

Or let's imagine I have a neighbor in my room and a dog. When I go outside I see a homeless guy and a bird. So my question is this, is the dog became the homeless guy or the neighbor? I hope I don't confuse you too much haha 

[Osaid]

Just now, TheGod said:

Consciousness isn't going anywhere it's just changing constantly, taking on new forms.

Right.

1 minute ago, TheGod said:

My question is this, when I am in my room I have consciousness in a form of a dog and when I go outside I see a homeless guy.

Is it the same consciousness that changed it's form from the dog to this guy?

Or let's imagine I have a neighbor in my room and a dog. When I go outside I see a homeless guy and a bird. So my question is this, is the dog became the homeless guy or the neighbor? I hope I don't confuse you too much haha 

Right, I got the question. I'll try my best to answer it clearly.

We can say consciousness is the "witness" of experience.

The witness of experience never changes because it is always in contact with whatever it is witnessing.

Many forms can change and move around, but you never change or move around, because you are witnessing it, or aware of it.

In this way, you can't say consciousness changed into a dog, because you were always aware/conscious of that. 

For example, you can say that you walked to the store. That "you" which walks into the store isn't the one aware of experience. Experience doesn't walk into a store. That "you" is based on the idea that you are a human that physically moved. Consciousness itself doesn't walk into a store. 

Consciousness-wise, since you were conscious of walking to the store, you never actually experienced being aware of moving anywhere, you were only ever conscious of exactly where you are.

Therein, consciousness is aware of the forms, but it isn't any of the forms. Which means, there's no real change for consciousness (it doesn't become something else).

[ZeroZeroes]

5 hours ago, TheGod said:

What happens to consciousness when its form dissolves be it a rock, an animal or a specific human?

No need to dissolve, it is all consciousness. Think of form more as wrinkling a flat paper. It remains paper, but some aspects of it are denser than others and have forms, especially compared to the original flatness. 

Besides that, The way of distinguishing those shapes is up to a judger, who must say, this specific part and shape of the paper is a star, this other one is a human, this one is a rock. None of those distinctions are intrinsic, it's all paper. The paper does not mind being any of those wrinkled forms.
 

5 hours ago, TheGod said:

How does consciousness chose its next form? Does it use some sort of a rule or it's completely random? 

There's no 'choice' to make, as it's all itself. The seeming separation is when the form creates an illusion of a distinct self or even distinct forms.

I don't really know how to explain it's process.
 

5 hours ago, TheGod said:

Life is obviously seems to be unfair because someone takes on a form of a successful billionaire and someone gets born in Nairobi in Africa. Since God is a supreme and intelligent being there must be some kind of fair logic behind it.   

Life appears unfair for humans because of our survival needs, consciousness itself does not have survival needs except when one of it's forms believes so. 

In terms of the fairness, it might help to imagine an author writing a D&D story except he rolls levels also. The author doesn't mind the discrepancies, but the characters in the story do. In the same way Consciousness does not mind, it's illusionary differentiated self's do. Illusion because they are not actually separated from Consciousness, it just appears so to them.
 

3 hours ago, TheGod said:

My question is this, when I am in my room I have consciousness in a form of a dog and when I go outside I see a homeless guy.

Is it the same consciousness that changed it's form from the dog to this guy? 

Depends on how solipsistic you want to be. From my experience, there is a bigger C consciousness that has all the structure of let's say earth, and a lower c consciousness, being you, as an experience within the big C that operates in that bigger structure. Although in the end you are both.

It doesn't need to change from dog to guy because it is already both, and yet it appears distinct/separate to small c consciousness.

[TheGod]

17 hours ago, Osaid said:

Therein, consciousness is aware of the forms, but it isn't any of the forms. Which means, there's no real change for consciousness (it doesn't become something else).

Can you explain on this because based of my direct experience on psychedelics I realized that I am all the forms but none of them at the same time.

[Osaid]

21 minutes ago, TheGod said:

Can you explain on this because based of my direct experience on psychedelics I realized that I am all the forms but none of them at the same time.

That is true and it is the same as what I am saying. That is the "nature" of awareness or existence. You are all the forms and therefore none of them.

That which appears as multiple things can't be any of what it appears as, since then it wouldn't be whole (itself). It is all things, and therefore it isn't either thing it appears as.

To say it another way, everything can't only be a part of everything. It has to be everything.

A part is a form. But everything (all the parts) is no form. 

As soon as you point to a form, you are already aware of the pointing and the form being pointed at, therefore you aren't actually either, you are the awareness of both.

Edited 22 hours ago by Osaid

[Carl-Richard]

How do you choose whether you go left or right on the street?

[Osaid]

10 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

How do you choose whether you go left or right on the street?

Lol yeah perhaps a better question

[GodisOne]

On 3/22/2026 at 4:26 AM, TheGod said:

I always choose to come back from God states because there is nothing just pure eternity forever.

I probably can answer this question from God state if such a question remains there but I don't remember 99% of my God states. The only thing I remember is that I chose to come back and here I am. Why and how I don't remember lol 

"because there is nothing just pure eternity forever."

Who said you were a human since the beginning of the universe for you to be bored, waiting for Homo sapiens to emerge before you decided it was fun to join. Even then, the passage of time (13.8 billion years in our case) is unlikely to be experienced at the same rate as it does on Earth with our human brains. 

Edited 15 hours ago by GodisOne

[Consilience]

On 3/21/2026 at 7:21 PM, TheGod said:

What happens to consciousness when its form dissolves be it a rock, an animal or a specific human? How does consciousness chose its next form? Does it use some sort of a rule or it's completely random? 

Life is obviously seems to be unfair because someone takes on a form of a successful billionaire and someone gets born in Nairobi in Africa. Since God is a supreme and intelligent being there must be some kind of fair logic behind it.   

I'm curios to hear your theories and ideas about it, especially if you confirmed them in your direct experience. 

Thank you. 

This excerpt from a Buddhist sutra comes to mind: 

"To the extent that there are beings — past and future, passing away and re-arising — all beings are the owner of their actions, heir to their actions, born of their actions, related through their actions, and have their actions as their arbitrator. Whatever they do, for good or for evil, to that will they fall heir." - Upajjhatthana Sutta (AN 5.57)

In other words, whatever karmic momentum we generate in this life will unfold in the next. The way I see it is that reality is too intelligent, too in balance for our actions not to influence the results of our lives, whether in this current expression or beyond. And furthermore, we see this mechanism of karma playing out all the time in this single life - why would the intelligence of cause and effect, karma, suddenly stop from one life to the next? 

[GodisOne]

3 hours ago, Consilience said:

This excerpt from a Buddhist sutra comes to mind: 

"To the extent that there are beings — past and future, passing away and re-arising — all beings are the owner of their actions, heir to their actions, born of their actions, related through their actions, and have their actions as their arbitrator. Whatever they do, for good or for evil, to that will they fall heir." - Upajjhatthana Sutta (AN 5.57)

In other words, whatever karmic momentum we generate in this life will unfold in the next. The way I see it is that reality is too intelligent, too in balance for our actions not to influence the results of our lives, whether in this current expression or beyond. And furthermore, we see this mechanism of karma playing out all the time in this single life - why would the intelligence of cause and effect, karma, suddenly stop from one life to the next? 

OP is not denying the existence of karma and its propagation to the next life. He is wondering how it works exactly. This is where we have to look to the most famous spiritual scientist of our time, Albert Einstein, for insight. who said “Everything is determined, the beginning as well as the end, by forces over which we have no control. It is determined for the insect, as well as for the star. Human beings, vegetables, or cosmic dust, we all dance to a mysterious tune, intoned in the distance by an invisible piper.”

He admits that the forces governing karma care outside our control, implying a predetermined universe. 

Edited 11 hours ago by GodisOne

[Franz_]

@Lazarus93  so like everything can happen then right?literally. not just the same boring reincarnation stuff to the same world,for example i could reincarnate to a fantasy world where magic,dragons things like that exist right,or is it limited in that way? and any other stuff i want basically

Edited 8 hours ago by Franz_

[Dazgwny]

On 22/03/2026 at 2:21 AM, TheGod said:

Since God is a supreme and intelligent being there must be some kind of fair logic behind it

The fair logic is that it is everything, from the billionaire to the rock, to someone born in Nairobi Africa. It literally could not be fairer. From a God point of view. Is it fair that your finger has no eyes to see, but your head does? Or is what’s being the head also being the finger so it just doesn’t really matter at all? 

[Lazarus93]

6 hours ago, Franz_ said:

@Lazarus93  so like everything can happen then right?literally. not just the same boring reincarnation stuff to the same world,for example i could reincarnate to a fantasy world where magic,dragons things like that exist right,or is it limited in that way? and any other stuff i want basically

Yes. However, don't assume that what 'You' as the ego wants is what God wants. For example, I would love to reincarnate into a rich and super powerful harem protagonist in a beautiful fantasy world after my current incarnation. However, notice that this desire only comes from my survival needs. After physical death, when I am at the highest states of consciousness as the Absolute, my desires are not necessarily going to be the same as this. For example, the nature of infinity is so radical that I could have already incarnated into a life like that over a hundred trillion times.

Imagine what it would be like if the ego got what it wanted, not once, but for the next 100,000,000 years. Biological immortality. Sex with the hottest women everyday. Food that is amazing and healthy. 50 mansions. 150 cars. Infinite money generation. It may seem like an utopia at first, but really think about it: If the ego got EXACTLY what it wanted for that long, you would fall into a deep hole of boredom and nihilism after the first hundred or so years, if not literally within a few weeks. 

Basically, anything that seems like a great universe to reincarnate to right now is distorted by your survival wants and needs. Which necessarily will not be there when you reach the Godhead. But you absolutely could imagine any type of existence after death, like you are imagining your current life right now.

12 hours ago, Consilience said:

This excerpt from a Buddhist sutra comes to mind: 

"To the extent that there are beings — past and future, passing away and re-arising — all beings are the owner of their actions, heir to their actions, born of their actions, related through their actions, and have their actions as their arbitrator. Whatever they do, for good or for evil, to that will they fall heir." - Upajjhatthana Sutta (AN 5.57)

In other words, whatever karmic momentum we generate in this life will unfold in the next. The way I see it is that reality is too intelligent, too in balance for our actions not to influence the results of our lives, whether in this current expression or beyond. And furthermore, we see this mechanism of karma playing out all the time in this single life - why would the intelligence of cause and effect, karma, suddenly stop from one life to the next? 

Honestly, I am not so sure. Remember, at the highest states of consciousness, God is ultimately sovereign. Causality and karma are dreams within consciousness. Something dreamt up by God. Just because karma plays out in this current life does not mean it will apply after physical death. God is Infinite Will. 

Edited 2 hours ago by Lazarus93