Why is Tucker Carlson frowned on this forum

[Karmadhi]

Hello everyone

Recently I have been watching some interviews of Tucker Carlson and speeches and to be honest I am starting to like him

To be fair, it is mostly involving the Middle East and his arguments are very logical, unbiased and overall coherent

I notice on this forumn he is seen as some epistemic ceasepol but at least when it comes to Middle Eastern topics which are his main discussion point these days he seems much more objective to me than most western commentators

Much more than Piers Morgan for example or Destiny 

So why the hate?

To be fair, I do not know his internal politics, I know he supported Trump and all and probably I would not agree with him on that

Also he seems to have a victim complex about white christians being persecuted which I think it is a bit nonsense

Also he is slightly pro Russian (although definelty not Russian agent or some extreme pro Russian as some people claim)

But his Middle Eastern position to me is one of the best

So why the hate?

If it is purely about Trump then ok

Although he seems to be mature enough to call out Trump on breaking his word instead of blindly following him like some other clowns do.

Thats at least something

To be fair I have specific things I do not agree with him about some interventionf of Nato in Europe however, these days when there is insane hypocrisy and shameless gaslighting he seems to me to be slightly better than others.

Note, everything I am saying refers ONLY to foreign policy since I do not live in USA

I have no idea what he says about American internal affairs and policies

If he says nonsense there then please ignore my entire thread

It is more for non Americans.

 

This interview for example is excellent

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tox2hr4dddM

This as well

Edited 7 hours ago by Karmadhi

[Leo Gura]

Because he's a liar and demagogue. He will say whatever is convenient to his career. He shifts to whatever is popular.

Leaked texts from the Fox News defamation trial shows how much he hated Trump in private, but while he worked a Fox News he kissed Trump's ass and promoted him to his audience of idiots.

Tucker is an opportunistic epistemic pervert.

Just because he hates Zionism, don't think he's on your side. He is going to promote Trump and other corrupt buffoons of his ilk.

Tucker is responsible for Huckabee being in power. Tucker's entire career enables this perverty.

Edited 7 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Karmadhi]

7 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Because he's a liar and demagogue. He will say whatever is convenient to his career. He shifts to whatever is popular.

Well he openly challenged the pro Ukraine narrative in America and even interviewed Putin

I slightly disagree with that stance personally but it is a high risk move to do

It is much safer to just say Ukraine good and Russia bad as 99% of Western medias do 

 

Most Americans see Ukraine=Good and Russia=Bad therefore saying otherwise is not saying something popular.

So in this case he does not seem to me to "shift to whatever is popular"Even critique of Zionism has huge risks and costs in USA considering the influence of Israel therefore even if he is a demagogue he for sure takes some risks

Desitny would be someone who basically says whatever is considered popular and normal and acceptable

Tucker challenges the American empire

7 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Leaked texts from the Fox News defamation trial shows how much he hated Trump in private, but while he worked a Fox News he kissed Trump's ass and promoted him to his audience of idiots.

Ok I had no idea on that, which is why I said on my opening that "if it invovles internal American policies I take it back"

7 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Just because he hates Zionism, don't think he's on your side.

I dont agree with him on many topics like his "white christians being opppressed narrative"

Just we need someone to critique Israel in the USA from the conversative right

He is very useful in that sense

If the only people who are critical are libtards or nazis like Fuentes then...

Edited 6 hours ago by Karmadhi

[enchanted]

Tucker is not bad. But I even like listening to Nick Fuentes because I just like listening to crazy prospectives and seeing what kind of good or bad ideas are floating out there and influencing people.

Most YouTube videos are just entertainment and lowest common denominator culture war bs designed to get clicks and eyeballs, reduce your attention span and get you emotionally charged rather than inform you. Including all these political podcasters and "journalists" like Tucker Carlson. Read more books if you actually want to learn many things and think deeply. Conversations have very little content compared to written word.

Tucker is a very successful in this game and he has some good content. Some of his views are good and he challenges the right wing with new ideas. 

I like Tucker cause he's open minded and has some good ideas but he is also the type of person who is so "open minded" he will wonder things like "were the Nazis actually good? What? I'm just asking questions!" This can be frustrating. 

Otherwise enjoy what you enjoy and don't let people on this forum stop you

Edited 5 hours ago by enchanted

[Leo Gura]

2 hours ago, Karmadhi said:

Just we need someone to critique Israel in the USA from the conversative right

He is very useful in that sense

I have no issue with him criticizing Zionists.

But I am never going to take him as my ally. Because he is fundamentally slimy and cartoonishly right-wing.

He is a Trump promoter. He promoted Bush. His staff are racists and white supremacists. So fuck him. No way am I falling for his demagoguery. He is a dangerous potential political candidate. I still worry he might run for president some day.

Edited 4 hours ago by Leo Gura

[LordFall]

He is quite brave though. He went to Moscow itself to interview Putin.

[Hojo]

@KarmadhiTucker carlsons inteview with putin

 

Edited 3 hours ago by Hojo

[Lyubov]

He’s just setting himself up for the long term. He’s bearish on Trump. Tucker can see Trump has less years ahead of him than he does behind him in politics. He will gladly support an ultra right wing fascist that is younger and appeals to all the Gen Z/alpha men (himself?). 

Edited 1 hour ago by Lyubov