Is porn actually harmless, or are we just pretending?

[Natasha Tori Maru]

4 hours ago, Willy Phallicus said:

Anything can become an addiction or obsession.  My analogy works because if porn spirals into an addiction then you're using that fire destructively.

 

However - people do not have a biological driving force to 'fire'.

We aren't just talking about the 'thing' here, which would be porn, but also the factors within human biology and dopamine systems that also come into play. Last I checked people have a need to fuck. There's not the same driver for 'fire'. You cannot lacerate off the most important part of the discussion to force this analogy fit.

Essentially porn is a supernormal stimulus - something that engages with an existing drive directly and amplifies it beyond what it evolved for.

[lostingenosmaze]

 

[Ramasta9]

1 hour ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

However - people do not have a biological driving force to 'fire'.

We aren't just talking about the 'thing' here, which would be porn, but also the factors within human biology and dopamine systems that also come into play. Last I checked people have a need to fuck. There's not the same driver for 'fire'. You cannot lacerate off the most important part of the discussion to force this analogy fit.

Essentially porn is a supernormal stimulus - something that engages with an existing drive directly and amplifies it beyond what it evolved for.

Well said. This gave me an analogy.

Having sex is like lighting a fire to complete your evening duties, cooking, lighting, and keep you warm throughout the evening. Watching porn is like lighting up a candle and expecting it to provide the wide array of things the a real fire can provide. 

[Carl-Richard]

59 minutes ago, Ramasta9 said:

Well said. This gave me an analogy.

Having sex is like lighting a fire to complete your evening duties, cooking, lighting, and keep you warm throughout the evening. Watching porn is like lighting up a candle and expecting it to provide the wide array of things the a real fire can provide. 

I thought you would mention a flamethrower but ok.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

6 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

I thought you would mention a flamethrower but ok.

The spigot of the fully charged up male of the human species?

[Ramasta9]

8 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

I thought you would mention a flamethrower but ok.

I guess  Its just what came up.

[bazera]

I think that junk food is a perfect analogy because it's obvious that over-consumption causes issues.

But notice that some people eat junk food and don't experience negative side-effects because of it. Maybe it's genetics thing? Trump comes to mind as he famously eats McDonalds daily. Maybe porn works like that too I have no idea.

Also notice that over time you get desensitized to a normal food, requiring more sugary, salty and exciting processed junk to satisfy the tongue and taste receptors.

And when you ditch junk food and return to healthy eating habits, senses are being reset and you are back to normal in couple weeks. If you are lucky you can even reverse your bad health with it.

The compulsivity and lack of self-control is a problem here, not porn itself. But porn is designed in such a way and tickles a part of the reptilian brain (so to speak) in such a way that it's very easy to lose yourself in the rabbit hole of it, especially when you are a teenage boy having nothing better to do. 

[Ramasta9]

2 hours ago, bazera said:

I think that junk food is a perfect analogy because it's obvious that over-consumption causes issues.

But notice that some people eat junk food and don't experience negative side-effects because of it. Maybe it's genetics thing? Trump comes to mind as he famously eats McDonalds daily. Maybe porn works like that too I have no idea.

Also notice that over time you get desensitized to a normal food, requiring more sugary, salty and exciting processed junk to satisfy the tongue and taste receptors.

And when you ditch junk food and return to healthy eating habits, senses are being reset and you are back to normal in couple weeks. If you are lucky you can even reverse your bad health with it.

The compulsivity and lack of self-control is a problem here, not porn itself. But porn is designed in such a way and tickles a part of the reptilian brain (so to speak) in such a way that it's very easy to lose yourself in the rabbit hole of it, especially when you are a teenage boy having nothing better to do. 

Oh they do, the thing is modern human behaviour has become so normalized that what is actually sick humans walking around has become normalized so they think / appear they are normal, when in fact, they are very sick, physically, mentally, psychologically.

This is why when you stop the junk food, after a period of withdrawal and detoxification, behaviour, thought patterns, moods, how you feel and perceive life, changes dramatically in a positive manner, you realize you were an addict on drugs, because these are not actual foods but drugs, mostly chemicals and waste products and maybe 1 - 5% real food.

Most people who eat such things are half-dead zombies / bio-robots, a by-product of such science experiments like junk and fast foods behave in our bodies. My first time stopping McDonalds was 6 months, then i ate a burger once, and i could not get out of bed for 24 hours felt like death. Since then I haven't touched any of that stuff maybe 15 years now. 

Edited 16 hours ago by Ramasta9

[LordFall]

What are the negative side effects you guys feel after watching porn? I feel like a lot of it is placebo.

Sometimes I feel lower energy afterward and less motivation but not other times. And most times that lower energy lasts like 10 mins then I'm good to go. 

Also helps reduce my anxiety throughout the workday. 

Edited 15 hours ago by LordFall

[bazera]

28 minutes ago, LordFall said:

What are the negative side effects you guys feel after watching porn? I feel like a lot of it is placebo.

Sometimes I feel lower energy afterward and less motivation but not other times. And most times that lower energy lasts like 10 mins then I'm good to go. 

Also helps reduce my anxiety throughout the workday. 

Depends on frequency. None, if I do very rarely like once every other week. But if I do it daily, it mostly affects my sexual performance very negatively, also I get desensitized to a real life scenarios which makes intimacy with a real human very hard. 

That's mostly it.

[bazera]

2 hours ago, Ramasta9 said:

My first time stopping McDonalds was 6 months, then i ate a burger once, and i could not get out of bed for 24 hours felt like death. Since then I haven't touched any of that stuff maybe 15 years now. 

I experienced same thing with KFC wings and burger. Once I had to stop all junk food for couple months due to medical issue and once it got resolved, I thought I'd eat some KFC and ordered it. I literally vomitted everything, my body just rejected that shit.

But interestingly, after days and weeks of eating and getting used to junk again, it got normilized and I wasn't feeling negative effects much, till I ditched it again for some time.

Edited 14 hours ago by bazera

[Ramasta9]

8 minutes ago, bazera said:

I experienced same thing with KFC wings and burger. Once I had to stop all junk food for couple months due to medical issue and once it got resolved, I thought I'd eat some KFC and ordered it. I literally vomitted everything, my body just rejected that shit.

But interestingly, after days and weeks of eating and getting used to junk again, it got normilized and I wasn't feeling negative effects much, till I ditched it again for some time.

Yes, its how many natives adapt to poisons from toads, snakes, toxic plants for medicinal use ect... taking a little bit more and more the immune system adapts so it doesn't kill you even when you take larger amounts but if someone was to randomly have a large amount after never eating it or not eating in a long time such poisons can very easily kill you and many people have died from fasting and breaking the fast with such foods because they are at the very far end of the "natural food" for our bodies (spectrum).

 

[Carl-Richard]

17 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

The spigot

Edited 3 hours ago by Carl-Richard

[LordFall]

This is a podcast with a one of the most famous couple in the porn industry, seems to be like their relationship is healthier than most.

Although I wouldn't be surprised if they did separate a few years from now but that's mostly due to Adam's financial situation and Lena making apparently way more money than him.