Sleeping With Some Guy's Wife

[Atb210201]

16 minutes ago, LordFall said:

 

How do you know this? Or is this you guys wishing away the complexities of human sexuality? I would say that plenty of couples that love each other are in various forms of open relationships and studies would back that up I'm sure. 

Haha, "studies".

As if "Studies" or "the people being studied" always tell the truth. Sure.

There is nothing complex about it actually it's very simple.

The complexities that you're talking about is because people are lost in their so called "Sexual Liberation" fantasies.

Edited 10 hours ago by Atb210201

[Schizophonia]

13 minutes ago, LordFall said:

 

How do you know this? Or is this you guys wishing away the complexities of human sexuality? I would say that plenty of couples that love each other are in various forms of open relationships and studies would back that up. 

If you truly love/like someone you don't want to look elsewhere or even want degrading sexuality.

If you want that it means you are dominated by other kinds of emotions (at least in relation to the person concerned).

Edited 10 hours ago by Schizophonia

[LordFall]

I think you guys are projecting your personal idealism onto the world, but human psychology is much messier than you believe it is.

The idea that deep emotional love magically turns off erotic curiosity or the human appetite for taboo is a romantic fairy tale. If that were true, happy marriages wouldn't struggle with desire and dead bedrooms wouldn't exist. Conflating emotional affection with the complete shutdown of sexual novelty is just denial and idealism. 

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[Atb210201]

20 minutes ago, LordFall said:

I think you guys are projecting your personal idealism onto the world, but human psychology is much messier than you believe it is.

The idea that deep emotional love magically turns off erotic curiosity or the human appetite for taboo is a romantic fairy tale. If that were true, happy marriages wouldn't struggle with desire and dead bedrooms wouldn't exist. Conflating emotional affection with the complete shutdown of sexual novelty is just denial and idealism. 

Haha it's really interesting that you don't see your ego trying to hold on to its sexual fantasies as strongly as possible.

How unfortunate that this is what your ideal is in this world.

But it's fine you do or try to do what you are tempted to do.

I'll let you be the judge of your own actions at the end of your life.

Edited 7 hours ago by Atb210201

[Ulax]

1 minute ago, Atb210201 said:

Haha it's really interesting that you don't see your ego trying to hold on to its sexual fantasies as strongly as possible.

How unfortunate that this is what your ideal is in this world.

But it's fine you do or try to do what you are tempted to do.

I'll let you be the judge of your own actions at the end of your life.

I'm curious regarding where your morals come from.

Religion?

[Atb210201]

Just now, Ulax said:

I'm curious regarding where your morals come from.

Religion?

Sure, why not.

You could say that if you want.

[LordFall]

1 hour ago, Atb210201 said:

Haha it's really interesting that you don't see your ego trying to hold on to its sexual fantasies as strongly as possible.

How unfortunate that this is what your ideal is in this world.

But it's fine you do or try to do what you are tempted to do.

I'll let you be the judge of your own actions at the end of your life.

You completely dodged the dead bedroom reality because religious dogma can't account for actual human relationship dynamics.

When your entire moral framework boils down to "Stage Blue religious conditioning that I can't rationally justify," of course real-world psychology looks like "ego" to you. You sound like someone who has one foot in Islam and one foot in trying to make sense of the world by himself but anything that goes too far outside of your comfort zone you run back to 'straight to eternal damnation for you!'

It's cute to have an ego this fragile but it makes you seem like an individual living shackled by fear as opposed to being inspired by freedom and love.  

Stop shaming others for their sexual desires and you will stop shaming yourself like you've been doing everywhere on the forum for what seem to me like mostly healthy expressions of human drives that religion has deeply shamed you for. 

Edited 6 hours ago by LordFall

[Atb210201]

17 minutes ago, LordFall said:

You completely dodged the dead bedroom reality because religious dogma can't account for actual human relationship dynamics.

When your entire moral framework boils down to "Stage Blue religious conditioning that I can't rationally justify," of course real-world psychology looks like "ego" to you. You sound like someone who has one foot in Islam and one foot in trying to make sense of the world by himself but anything that goes too far outside of your comfort zone you run back to 'straight to eternal damnation for you!'

It's cute to have an ego this fragile but it makes you seem like an individual living shackled by fear as opposed to being inspired by freedom and love.  

Stop shaming others for their sexual desires and you will stop shaming yourself like you've been doing everywhere on the forum for what seem to me like mostly healthy expressions of human drives that religion has deeply shamed you for. 

I dodged it because it's not of my concerns.

Sexuality is not of my own concerns anymore but for others I would say it truly only happens in a natural and healthy way only through a good marriage that can contain its sacredness within itself with respect and love and that's all.

In concerns to shame and all the other stuff that you said I would say a shameful person who understands when to be shameful is a hundred times better than a shameless person who doesn't want to feel shame at all.

Either way I send you peace and love bro.

I accept you the way you are and the way you want me to accept you, it's OK. I won't insist on you anymore.

Edited 6 hours ago by Atb210201

[Inliytened1]

On 3/15/2026 at 7:50 AM, Butters said:

Has anyone here done this? I've had a few offers but I always declined. 

I once went to this place where old people massage each other on a table with oil and and I joined in lol. 

But not like full on swingers. I also offered doing some swapping with my ex but she hated the idea. I guess I just liked the idea of another chick or couple watching while we fucked. 

I think swinging is much more prevalent with older couples cause after 20 years of marriage they just don't care anymore and see it as something novel. If she's old then the guy doesn't get jealous anymore. 

Three times.  You gotta be careful. You can run into the wrong dude and he'll fucking kill you. I've just been lucky.  Im fucking a girl now thats with someone.im not proud of it. But she is ready to leave. I just don't want her moving in with me that fast so she's still there for now. But yeah bro I don't recommend.  You will only get limited time  Now if that's your groove- it might work. Because you get sex a couple times a week maybe and then you can still go out and do your own thing.

Edited 3 hours ago by Inliytened1

[LordFall]

3 hours ago, Atb210201 said:

I dodged it because it's not of my concerns.

Sexuality is not of my own concerns anymore but for others I would say it truly only happens in a natural and healthy way only through a good marriage that can contain its sacredness within itself with respect and love and that's all.

In concerns to shame and all the other stuff that you said I would say a shameful person who understands when to be shameful is a hundred times better than a shameless person who doesn't want to feel shame at all.

Either way I send you peace and love bro.

I accept you the way you are and the way you want me to accept you, it's OK. I won't insist on you anymore.

Peace and love to you as well brother.

I think you're limiting the expression of sexuality in many ways. I don't see why healthy sexual relations that feel sacred could only happen in a marriage. A marriage is an effective socioeconomic arrangement for humans to raise children in a lot of societies. To make it the only way intimacy can be shared in a healthy way is a bit silly.

This is why it's important to go deeper in our thoughts towards this and unearth what we are pointing to. I can understand that a couple inviting a third partner into their relationship seems a bit extreme for someone that's not used to it, but I would encourage you to sit with that thought and get to the root of where the negative feelings around it are coming from in your psyche and you will likely end up with a more complete understanding of human sexual expression.

Edited 2 hours ago by LordFall

[Atb210201]

20 minutes ago, LordFall said:

Peace and love to you as well brother.

I think you're limiting the expression of sexuality in many ways. I don't see why healthy sexual relations that feel sacred could only happen in a marriage. A marriage is an effective socioeconomic arrangement for humans to raise children in a lot of societies. To make it the only way intimacy can be shared in a healthy way is a bit silly.

This is why it's important to go deeper in our thoughts towards this and unearth what we are pointing to. I can understand that a couple inviting a third partner into their relationship seems a bit extreme for someone that's not used to it, but I would encourage you to sit with that thought and get to the root of where the negative feelings around it are coming from in your psyche and you will likely end up with a more complete understanding of human sexual expression.

Haven't you read my previous posts in this post brother?

I said I'm guilty of having these urges myself.

I know exactly what they are and why they are enticing.

Having said that the reason I promote marriage is exactly because of what you said about children. It's because of the family unit.

And also even if children are not the goal still marriage has the strongest foundation in all kinds of relationships and is harder to break apart.

But sure you can have a loving and intimate relationship with someone without getting married to them.

It's just that marriage is the inevitable result of it even if you have that because otherwise, why are you even together if you don't want to be each others husband and wife?

That is the ultimate goal of a relationship between a man and a woman.

And without having that goal in mind, the seriousness and the commitment of a relationship are at risk and not good enough.

Edited 2 hours ago by Atb210201

[Inliytened1]

15 minutes ago, Atb210201 said:

Haven't you read my previous posts in this post brother?

I said I'm guilty of having these urges myself.

I know exactly what they are and why they are enticing.

Having said that the reason I promote marriage is exactly because of what you said about children. It's because of the family unit.

And also even if children are not the goal still marriage has the strongest foundation in all kinds of relationships and is harder to break apart.

But sure you can have a loving and intimate relationship with someone without getting married to them.

It's just that marriage is the inevitable result of it even if you have that because otherwise, why are you even together if you don't want to be each others husband and wife?

That is the ultimate goal of a relationship between a man and a woman.

And without having that goal in mind, the seriousness and the commitment of a relationship are at risk and not good enough.

This is the kind of traditional point of view. And its good. To a point. But he's opening you up to be able fo feel your actual whims.  You see..you can get bored sexually with one person.  It has definitely been my bane.  So then I branched out and started sleeping with different women. Now the pussy I feel is warm and it's close.  That's a feeling you can't retain with marriage. So he's showing you a different perspective that isn't so traditional. 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by Inliytened1

[Atb210201]

Just now, Inliytened1 said:

This is the kind of traditional point of view. And its good. To a point. But he's opening you up to be able fo feel your actual whims.  You see..you can get bored awxually with one person.  It has definitely been my bane.  So then I branched out and started sleeping with different women. Now the pussy I feel is warm and it's close.  That's a feeling you can't retain with marriage. So he's showing you a different perspective that isn't ao traditional. 

 

That is a good point if all you want is sex.

[Inliytened1]

2 minutes ago, Atb210201 said:

That is a good point if all you want is sex.

I think you do want the bond.  Dude, my brother and I are exact opposites. He is fhe family man and he stuck to it. It is commendable.  

Edited 2 hours ago by Inliytened1

[Atb210201]

1 minute ago, Inliytened1 said:

I think you do want the bond.  Dude, my brother and I are exact opposites. He is fhe family man and he stuck to it. It is commendable.  

You do want it as well.

That is why you commend your brother.

No human is on the planet that doesn't want the bond.

I'm sorry if I speak like this I know it can be hard sometimes.

[Inliytened1]

Just now, Atb210201 said:

You do want it as well.

That is why you commend your brother.

No human is on the planet that doesn't want the bond.

I'm sorry if I speak like this I know it can be hard sometimes.

No. I took the pussy. And I'm ok with it. We all make decisions.  And we have to live with them. 

[Atb210201]

5 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

No. I took the pussy. And I'm ok with it. We all make decisions.  And we have to live with them. 

I won't say anything further.

I know and feel your position in your life.

Yes we do brother yes we do.

Take care.

Edited 1 hour ago by Atb210201

[Inliytened1]

4 minutes ago, Atb210201 said:

I won't say anything further.

I know and feel your position in your life.

Yes we do bro yes we do.

Take care.

Its ok. We were both talking about it today. He has lead a very boring, unglamorous life.  I can say one thing. I've fucking lived. Not sure what it's worth.  It's probably worth it to be the boring guy. 

Edited 1 hour ago by Inliytened1

[Atb210201]

1 minute ago, Inliytened1 said:

Its ok. We were both talking about it today. He has lead a very boring, unglamorous life.  I can say one thing. I've fucking lived. Not sure what it's worth. 

Good for you man good for you

[Inliytened1]

6 minutes ago, Atb210201 said:

Good for you man good for you

Anyways.  That's the tradeoff. Maybe you can get the whole thing from marriage.  I just tended to get bored 

Edited 1 hour ago by Inliytened1