Storytelling or Riffing?

[Butters]

How do you keep your conversations with girls going and interesting? I think there's two styles:

Riffing = improvising with the environment, Riffing, clowning. 

Storytelling = turning boring "and then I went to that place" into something with a more interesting narrative. 

I personally just jerk off to pictures of ladyboys online so this question is for the real players. 

[something_else]

There’s also asking questions. A lot of guys have this idea that we need to jump straight to riffing or storytelling, talking all the time, being alpha etc. but you need the basics of conversation locked in first, and asking good and interesting questions is a big part of that.

I’ve met a lot of girls who said their worst dates were with guys who were just talking about themselves the whole time and never giving her a chance to say anything. 

Edited Tuesday at 10:06 PM by something_else

[Hojo]

The way I do it is keep asking questions and let them talk.

Pay attention to what they are saying and keep relating things back to things they have said to make it sound like you were interested.

Say alot of 'wow', and 'thats interesting'

Edited Tuesday at 11:27 PM by Hojo

[LastThursday]

Depends on the situation. But whatever the situation you're just exchanging information through chit-chat and getting those small dopamine hits. If you're looking to pull, then both parties need to exchange just enough information to say "yes" or "no", and then escalate the situation quickly, if it's all systems go. A lot of that exchange is non-verbal, so self-confidence, energy, interest, laughter, touch, smell and a million other non-verbal things come into the mix, some of which you can control and improve on, some of which you have no control over.

[theleelajoker]

Funny.

Nobody asks how women can make the conversation interesting for men. As if entertainment was a man's job only. 

The answer btw how women make conversation interesting for me is when women talk about things they really care about, when they are light and fun, or when they are emotional and show it (sad angry scared happy cheerful doesn't matter as long as its authentic and not victim mode) or when they are bold, when they teach me something new that is relevant for me, or when they ask me questions that I don't have an immediate answer for (love that one!), or when they genuinely listen, or when they genuinely want to get to know me, or when they make me laugh, or when they appreciate me for who I am, or when they pick up subtle little hints and pointers in my communication, or when they are witty, when they follow my lead in a conversation, or when they lead the conversation, or when they tease me playfully, or when they are courageous enough to express themselves fully, or when they are even more courageous and go into a conflict with me without being insecure, or righteous about it. 

You would have to ask the women that have been dating me, but my impression is that most or maybe all of the things above all are things that women find interesting as well

@Natasha Tori Maru @Xonas Pitfall

Curious if we can have a woman's opinion here.

 

One of the best questions I got asked a while ago by a woman: "What was the last thing that inspired you?" That depth and interest was authentic and thus sexy as hell. 

Edited 2 hours ago by theleelajoker

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@theleelajoker Thanks for the tag

I do not know if I am a good conversationalist - but I tend to encounter more of 'I am tired and need introverted time' than my conversation/flirtation partner needing it. So maybe that says something.

I ask questions that probe at what motivates the person. What they find profound, what touches their emotions and how their views on the world have shifted over time. I do not care very much for outward appearance, so I am more hell bent on trying to dissect and understand the mind that I am dealing with. Thats where all the juicy stuff is! I let myself emote and express emotion as much as I please, sometimes being a bit of a Machiavellian shit also. I test boundaries a little by being provocative; but I am very well socialised so I can tell when I need to cool it. And if anything is unclear I just ask. I am naturally very direct which surprises most men. I feel like if I have an issue I will say it - and I do expect that communication in return. NGL though I have run into large issues with passive aggressive people who DO NOT vocalise boundaries.

Overall I tell stories and create narratives when I engage in flirtatious dialogue. I use my hands when I speak. I try to communicate as much as I can through expression and non-verbal means. But this is quite natural to me. I think only on these forums I may appear more dry and direct. 

As a woman the best way I have found to engage and entertain a man was to fully swim in my emotional experience and take the dude on a ride with me through it. I try to show them that side of me, as it is typically what they are more interested in - initially. After I have known them for a while they begin to get past the physical appearance and emotional play and see the intellectual side. Which can be its own THING later on down the track. Another layer of fun!

I've never thought it was the dudes job to entertain me or lead the conversation. I am happy to take on either role tbh. 

Overall I am a storyteller. But riffing is a good way to change it up and witness how your partner responds to different environments (which is really important). It depends on what I am trying to learn about myself and the other person.

No idea if that even answers the question lol