Arthogaan

Mission and altruism post God Realization

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It has been some years after my permanent no self realization and God-Realization.

Then I fulfilled my a lot remaining karmas and desires like pickup, health, finances, relationships.
If I died today I can say I am fulfilled. Most of my personal ambitions are gone. Of course there are still a lot of defilements but they are much less sticky.
I also spent a lot of time just doing nothing, resting and immersing myself in beauty of perception. 

I find myself more and more altruistic and connected to humanity, life and reality itself.
But in this complicated messy world I find it very hard to even assess what help actually would be most productive and I really respect your wide understanding of world mechanics so I would really appreciate some feedback here.

Whatever endeavour I imagine it seems hmmm not reaching the root so to speak.

Being a medic doesn't really solve much because that's just physical stuff.
Becoming a psychiatrist doesn't really solve much because people are running in circles anyway and are not really ready for deep change.
Same goes for mentoring and being a spiritual teacher. And there is so much information online anyway that if someone really wants to change all is there.

When I deeply ask "God/Me, what do you want me to do?" I get two sided answer 
- on one hand it's like "he" wants me to just be helpful in any simple action I do for the sake of experience of altruism and no self. It's just the aspect he wants me to explore
- on the other hand I get this more solipsistic aspect of - All is fine already, you are the only existing, looking for being helpful is just a distraction from pure appreciation of reality. You should just focus on perceiving ever more beauty, consciousness. Humanity is not that important. Do not waste your talent for humanity. Deepen your perception.

What would you say to that? And please do not answer with "you need to find what your strengths are and what resonates for you". I know that. Let's assume I am just a blank state - so I might as well very rationally and metaphysically get to the core of the issue.

Why do you do what you do? I know Leo sometimes relatively you says that he wants to develop humanity to its next level when it comes to Truth.
But on a deeper, Solipsistic level is that really the case? He just does what he likes, no different than looking at the sky whole day?
Is there actually any real value in being altruistic or that is just a self-deception mechanism that I can consciously explore?

@Leo Gura @Sincerity @Davino @Razard86 @Water by the River


In the Vast Expanse everything that arises is Lively Awakened Awareness.

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Well, I think it’s just a matter of whichever energy is stronger in you: that of altruistic action vs that of deepening perception. I don’t think they’re different on a fundamental level - both are energies. Both are completely valid. It’s up to you what is expressed.

You might feel the futility of altruistic action either due to 1) limiting beliefs and bias, eg. „bigger and more specific endeavours are pointless” or 2) because you genuinely don’t see the point and would rather engage in deepening perception. Again, both are energies, both are actions, both are endeavours. One is not worse than the other.

Also, you don’t have to look at altruistic action as something for others. Outcomes don’t matter, following your energy does. Essentially you’re always doing anything because that’s what you are (energetically), not because you want an outcome. You only might start wanting outcomes after an energy is buzzing in you. But also, I think you can definitely skip the clinging to outcomes and just act on the energy freely. Energy is first order.

So to sum up: both are energies, both are valid. Both don’t have to be about achieving something specific and clinging to outcomes. Both are futile or exciting. No difference. It depends on you.


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On 3/5/2026 at 8:30 PM, Arthogaan said:

I fulfilled my a lot remaining karmas and desires like pickup, health, finances, relationships.
If I died today I can say I am fulfilled. Most of my personal ambitions are gone. Of course there are still a lot of defilements but they are much less sticky.
I also spent a lot of time just doing nothing, resting and immersing myself in beauty of perception. 

I find myself more and more altruistic and connected to humanity, life and reality itself.
But in this complicated messy world I find it very hard to even assess what help actually would be most productive and I really respect your wide understanding of world mechanics so I would really appreciate some feedback here.

Maybe try giving a tiny bit of charity.  Not a lot.  It can not be overstated.  Finding a worthy cause, and giving a small amount on an ongoing basis does a lot of good.   Set it, forget it, and be open to new opportunities.  

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