Epistemic Responsibility = Frame

[Shakazulu]

Leo says very few people will ever outgrow Actualized.org.

But if you actually want to reach your highest potential aka God-realization then epistemic responsibility is the key. 

It means:

• Seeking direct experience
• Taking action to test ideas in reality
• Thinking deeply and forming your own conclusions

A teacher can point.
But you still have to see. 

id even dare to say responsibility and epistemic responsibility can lead you to making 100,000,000 

[Terell Kirby]

32 minutes ago, Shakazulu said:

But if you actually want to reach your highest potential aka God-realization then epistemic responsibility is the key. 

Hmm I could a case where God Realization is achieved, but without a proper epistemic foundation.

Of course there probably is some overlap, but mystical experiences and Awakening to God can certainly happen while at the same time bypassing cognitive development.

Edited Thursday at 06:49 PM by Terell Kirby

[gettoefl]

15 hours ago, Terell Kirby said:

Hmm I could a case where God Realization is achieved, but without a proper epistemic foundation.

Of course there probably is some overlap, but mystical experiences and Awakening to God can certainly happen while at the same time bypassing cognitive development.

What good is it to know if you don't know you know. You might be delulu*. Epistemics is knowing you know not feeling you know.

* "Delulu" is internet slang for "delusional," referring to someone holding unrealistic beliefs, fantasies, or romantic fantasies that are not based on reality. Originating in K-pop fandoms to describe obsessed fans, it is now used playfully by Gen Z/Alpha to describe having high, albeit unrealistic, self-confidence.

[Willy Phallicus]

Epistemic responsibility sounds like trying to torture meaning into existence when it doesn't need it.

Especially when you start hearing about sacrificing X for truth.

I guess it sounds good but you need more balls than brains.

Edited 4 hours ago by Willy Phallicus
clarification

[Leo Gura]

I would not equate it to frame.

Lots of epistemic scumbags have strong frame.

Frame is not the same thing as caring about truth.

Edited 5 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Breakingthewall]

On 5/3/2026 at 7:16 PM, Shakazulu said:

epistemic responsibility is the key. 

Plus

On 5/3/2026 at 7:16 PM, Shakazulu said:

But if you actually want to reach your highest potential aka God-realization

Means that If we're talking about serious epistemology, in order to say "I am God," you should at least be able to create a couple of galaxies, or better yet, a universe with a different geometry, shrink it to the size of a marble, and put it on the table as proof.