Veil of being spiritual, god, infinite or being something

[Joseph Maynor]

44 minutes ago, James123 said:

I am not concerned. Body is love.

Okay.  On that note, enjoy.

 

 

Edited yesterday at 06:54 PM by Joseph Maynor

[Someone here]

20 minutes ago, VeganAwake said:

@James123 @Someone here  

Hell I like you boys! We should have some tea together one day!

It was just pointers to have a look at if you want!

Nobody can convince. It has to be recognized there!

 

Now back to my coffee, and humbling/ twerking practice videos 🤣

 

 

 

 

Sure no worries..you will pay for the Shisha though 😂 

Is that you escaping from answering my questions though ? Because I take that as "I don't know".

[Breakingthewall]

6 hours ago, VeganAwake said:

Because when that James123 body dies, there will no longer be a self illusion to claim that something matters or not. 

So something seemingly mattering while the body is alive, ultimately doesn't matter later when the body is dead.

It doesn't matter now either actually.......it can just seem to......and that's ok!

80 years of pain and suffering end up being identical to 80 years of peace and tranquility after body death.

So in that sense ultimately nothing matters!!!!!

GET IT GENIUS 🤣

That's a logical deduction you've made, which you believe is correct. Saying the opposite is just as correct. Perhaps it offers you some comfort by deactivating the part of your mind that assigns importance to things, thus enabling survival, but this has no relation to enlightenment it's just an statement that is true for you.

Could be the case that you are immortal and you are going to reincarnate eternally in infinite lifes and knowing that wouldn't mean enlightenment. Even knowing every life and knowing that you are dreaming it or whatever, and be omnipotent wouldn't be enlightenment 

Edited 23 hours ago by Breakingthewall

[Ziran]

7 hours ago, James123 said:

I just talk

It reads as unecessarily hostile.  

[VeganAwake]

9 hours ago, Someone here said:

Is that you escaping from answering my questions though ? Because I take that as "I don't know".

The thing is,

I can't remove all the conditioned stories, theories, concepts, religious beliefs...etc....etc.... that most have been exposed to in life.

Maybe some are hardened deep seeded beliefs.

I wasn't raised in a religious family or culture pushing beliefs onto me and such.

I don't know what it's like to entertain beliefs like karma, god, satan, soul, spirit, reincarnation, heaven, hell, infinite consciousness....etc...etc...

Here all these concepts/beliefs seem absolutely ridiculous. 

When the mind is clouded by these endless conceptual stories and belief systems, there isn't any room left for basic understanding.

The glass needs to be empty.

The conceptual mind needs to be scrubbed and pressure washed out, like a young child again.

The purging of the conditioned mind if you will.

Enlightenment isn't about learning what's true.

It isn't a knowing either.

It's the removal of falsification revealing what was already the case!

[Mellowmarsh]

15 hours ago, Ziran said:

Agreed.  And in that instant the knowing is incomplete. 

Why?

 

Because it’s how we can all agree to understand what it is we are all talking about.

[Mellowmarsh]

18 hours ago, James123 said:

 

You are always what you are. Reincarnation, other life etc... all belongs to body and mind. When mind is surrendered there is no future for body, just simply reacting, flowing with life within moment. 

All that will remain of us is what is written down. Unwritten.
 

The future is a perfect blank slate. Unwritten.

[Ziran]

5 hours ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Because it’s how we can all agree to understand what it is we are all talking about.

Consider?  Again, most respectfully?

The reasoning above is not different from any other dogmatic indoctrination.

[Ziran]

For apprehending, appreciating, unknowables:  blackboxing. 

Ancient people weren't smart in terms of knowledge.  Instead, they were extraordinarily clever.  This is how.

The veil, in truth, is far better described in present-progressive, an ongoing-event. 

This specific happening, the one and only ubiquitous "vieling", prohibits conventional binary fact-finding, it's forever hiding, even within itself.  Binary cognition can neither apprehend it nor penetrate their mysterues. 

Inquiry of "nothing"necessarily requires and blossoms from communion with "antithesis".  

It cannot be known, but it can be understood.

Good neighbors make good fences << because >> good fences make good neighbors.

[Ziran]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackboxing

[Ziran]

On 3/2/2026 at 11:29 PM, James123 said:

The matrix is

self-propogated-affirmarions

Literally. 

A mirror of mirrors, nothing more nothing less

On 3/2/2026 at 11:29 PM, James123 said:

The matrix is your beliefs, experiences, ideas, assumptions, interpretations.

It's articulation, declaration, assertion, in all its forms: essence, manifestions, inflections, etc...

It's forever "I-AM"

On 3/2/2026 at 11:29 PM, James123 said:

With new experiences, new beliefs, old you becomes new you, and after again with new experiences, beliefs old you becomes new you. Such as I was Muslim, I am a spiritual person now or I wake up from matrix, now I am God in human form or I am god and I forget I wasn't it or I didn't know anything, listening this, experiencing this, now I now everything or I was a person but now I am infinite.

Ok

On 3/2/2026 at 11:29 PM, James123 said:

All is fucking bullshit. All is what you call matrix.

What's happening here is hostility which is a type of antithesis, supremely dual, my-way-or-the-highway, "spiking-football-in-the-end-zone", doing a "victory dance".

If this were mountaineering, that's akin to tumbling over edge.

On 3/2/2026 at 11:29 PM, James123 said:

What You are is unnameable, inexperiencable, ungraspable.

If you say so, literally.   The metaphorical reins are on your metaphorical hands.

On 3/2/2026 at 11:29 PM, James123 said:

Even, Be or simply be is too much. 

See above

On 3/2/2026 at 11:29 PM, James123 said:

Life, mind, existence, infinite, god, universe can not explain, evaluate or grasp. Because, they are the matrix itself. 

Life is "pulsing"

Existence is "dwelling"

Infinite is "assimilating"

god is "creating"

The matrix is shaping the impressions between sensory feedback and psyche.  Nothing more, nothing less.

matrix is "engraving"

May this bring respite to any who desire it.