The Case for Trump as Anti-Christ

[Oeaohoo]

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The anti-Christ symbolizes the death of Christ as the Deliverer so that he may rise again, immortalized as a higher spiritual principle and reuniting with the Heavenly Father (or nothingness). It is said that Jesus' body is buried in a cave before his body disappears and he returns to earth, visiting his disciples as a visionary apparition. The cave is closely associated with initiation, as well as the feminine principle, since it is the tomb in which the lesser self is buried but also the womb from which the Higher Self rises like the golden phoenix from the black ashes. According to Crowley, the numerological value for the Holy Guardian Angel is 666, the number of both Christ and the Anti-Christ. The Anti-Christ represents the death of Christ, his self-sacrifice as he descends into the underworld before he is immortally resurrected as pure spirit. The Anti-Christ serves as the necessary complement to Christ insofar that the Son of God must die in order to be reborn. Viewed from this perspective, the Anti-Christ cannot be understood as an actual figure but rather a spiritual process wherein the mundane ego must die in order to recognise our true nature as nothingness.

- Dark Enlightenment: The Apotheosis of the Self by Jack Fox-Williams

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The Christ-symbol lacks wholeness in the modern psychological sense, since it does not include the dark side of things but specifically excludes it in the form of a Luciferian opponent. The dogmatic figure of Christ is so sublime and spotless that everything else turns dark beside it. It is, in fact, so one-sidedly perfect that it demands a psychic complement to restore the balance. This inevitable opposition led very early to the doctrine of the two sons of God, of whom the elder was called Satanael. The coming of the Antichrist is not just a prophetic prediction— it is an inexorable psychological law whose existence, though unknown to the author of the Johannine Epistles, brought him a sure knowledge of the impending enantiodromia. A factor that no one has reckoned with, however, is the fatality inherent in the Christian disposition itself, which leads inevitably to a reversal of its spirit — not through the obscure workings of chance but in accordance with psychological law. The ideal of spirituality striving for the heights was doomed to clash with the materialistic earth-bound passion to conquer matter and master the world.

Carl Jung, Aion: Researches into the Phenomenology of the Self

From an esoteric point of view, the Anti-Christian forces which have obviously taken over the world are actually working for God. Like all the mythological depictions of a descent into the underworld, the world itself has now descended into hell. However, this descent is necessary to bring about the resurrection of higher and sublimated values.

Trump - egotistical, narcissistic, greedy, corrupt, perverted - is the perfect embodiment of Anti-Christian values. As such, I ask you: who better to rule over this collapsing world of ruins and, in doing so, bring about the much-prophesied New Age?

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And one calculates time from the dies nefastus [the unlucky day] on which this fatality arose — from the first day of Christianity… Why not rather from its last? From today? Umwertung aller Werte [Revaluation of all values]!

Friedrich Nietzsche, The Antichrist

Edited Wednesday at 11:29 PM by Oeaohoo

[Hojo]

I'll guess his son.

[Oeaohoo]

14 minutes ago, Hojo said:

I'll guess his son.

[Wilhelm44]

4 hours ago, Oeaohoo said:

From an esoteric point of view, the Anti-Christian forces which have obviously taken over the world are actually working for God. Like all the mythological depictions of a descent into the underworld, the world itself has now descended into hell. However, this descent is necessary to bring about the resurrection of higher and sublimated values.

Trump - egotistical, narcissistic, greedy, corrupt, perverted - is the perfect embodiment of Anti-Christian values. As such, I ask you: who better to rule over this collapsing world of ruins and, in doing so, bring about the much-prophesied New Age?

Yeah, all this shit is preparing the soil for something good to emerge.

[Elliott]

I consider the Christian church to be the church of Satan, anyway.

We've had many terrible 'leaders' like Trump before.

[Oeaohoo]

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The Messiah is a complex and contradictory figure insofar he must radically destroy himself in order to fulfil his ultimate archetypal role - to awaken the inner divinity within each human being. The Anti-Christ, viewed from this perspective, is inextricably linked to Christ insofar that it symbolizes the Luciferian spirit, the fact that each individual must discover the truth within themselves without bowing down to false idols. In Buddhism, the aim to attain complete 'inner emptiness' or sunyata, even annihilating the very concept of emptiness itself, and this means no longer attaching oneself to the concept of Buddha, Jesus or Mohammed. Christ must inevitably 'kill' himself as soon as he is born, as symbolized by the Anti-Christ, since to liberate humanity from samsaric ignorance means to destroy their external projections so they can discover the inner luminosity that shines forth from the void of wisdom.

- Dark Enlightenment: The Apotheosis of the Self by Jack Fox-Williams

In this way, Trump - as an avatar of the Anti-Christ - has been sent by God to destroy the false idol of Christ so that we can realise our true nature as absolute nothingness.

10 hours ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Yeah, all this shit is preparing the soil for something good to emerge.

“Go ahead! Achieve all your goals! Break all the dams! Faster! You are unbound. Go ahead and fly with faster wings, with an ever greater pride for your achievements, with your conquests, with your empires, with your democracies! The pit must be filled; there is a need for fertiliser for the new tree that will grow out of your collapse.”

2 hours ago, Elliott said:

I consider the Christian church to be the church of Satan, anyway.

It is nowadays. Maybe it used to be otherwise…

2 hours ago, Elliott said:

We've had many terrible 'leaders' like Trump before.

Not on anything like the same level of corruption.

[Elliott]

17 minutes ago, Oeaohoo said:

 

Not on anything like the same level of corruption.

Possibly not, but at least close

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio_Gang

President Harding

But beyond corruption(wasn't considered corrupt for kings), depending how far back you want to consider, there's been much more evil leaders in history.

Edited Thursday at 02:32 PM by Elliott

[Oeaohoo]

6 minutes ago, Elliott said:

But beyond corruption(wasn't considered corrupt for kings), depending how far back you want to consider, there's been much more evil leaders in history.

You might be right. If you have some good historical examples I’d be interested. I know that, in the ancient world, Sardanapalus was held up as an example of an extremely corrupt and decadent ruler.

[Elliott]

16 minutes ago, Oeaohoo said:

You might be right. If you have some good historical examples I’d be interested. I know that, in the ancient world, Sardanapalus was held up as an example of an extremely corrupt and decadent ruler.

Nero, roman emperor. Unironically, he was a pedophile too...

Leopold II

Henry VIII

Caligula

Timur

Edited Thursday at 02:58 PM by Elliott

[Oeaohoo]

8 hours ago, Elliott said:

Nero, roman emperor. Unironically, he was a pedophile too...

Leopold II

Henry VIII

Caligula

Timur

Roman emperors feel like more relevant examples since they were at least ruling over an empire. Henry VIII’s corruption seems irrelevant in comparison to Trump because his sphere of influence was much smaller. I also think that corruption in post-modernity has taken on a particularly vulgar, juvenile and moronic streak.

Edited Thursday at 11:33 PM by Oeaohoo

[Oeaohoo]

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As we have seen, the devil is etymologically associated with the word double, a reference to man's “double-nature” or “hidden self”, beyond the limitations of the mundane ego. As Kenneth Grant observes, Satan (or Set-Anubis) is linked to Shiva, the Great Destroyer, insofar that he destroys our false desires, worldly attachments, egotistical inflations, narcissistic attitudes, and complacent identities, revealing the noumenal source behind appearances. According to Grant, it is ironic that Satan is associated with moral evil, particularly greed, gluttony, egotism, and excess, because he brings death to the ego, revealing the inner light. According to Hillman, to endure the dark night of the soul means "the sacrifice of the mind's bright eye” and a "loss of what we have long considered to be our most precious human holding: Apollonian consciousness.” However, it is only by retreating into the darkness that we discover the True Self since this Self is, ironically, nothingness.

Selling one’s soul to the devil therefore symbolises one’s absolute commitment to the initiatory path and the calling of the Higher Self. Your True Will is to ascend into the Three Negative Veils of Existence and discover your essential spiritual nature, beyond the limitations of the mundane ego. The “diabolical pact” is often signed in blood, symbolizing the adept who spilled their blood (i.e. their false desires) into the Cup of Babylon. The pact is one's utter devotion to the Great Work, no matter how painful and difficult, so they can spiritually evolve.

Dark Enlightenment: The Apotheosis of the Self by Jack Fox-Williams

In this way, the satanic rule of Trump is actually the secret hidden path to supreme liberation and enlightenment! 

[LordFall]

I think it makes sense that we are in the end times. The human species will change like never before in its history. And coincidentally it all aligns with world peace. We have been going from roaming tribes to small settlements to cities to city states to powerful nation states to a globalized economy now facing what looks like to be something like the start of WW3.

Once we get over this small hangup I believe our species will come together, harnest the power AI to become a post scarcity species and move past capitalism. We are also at the point of having the technology to be able to explore and settle the cosmos.

Makes perfect sense to me that that the champion of our toxic values like mindless entertainment and apparently hedonism to the point raping children takes control of the most powerful nation state in the world and forces us towards alignment by unearthing how much shit there is on our society.

In online gaming exploits are first showcased broadly because they are solved.

I'm extremely impressed by the Bible and how coherent it is in predicting such developments of humanity. It was truly predictable thousands of years ago for a sufficiently conscious mind. I have a hard time predicting the price of bitcoin 1 month from now fuck. 

[Nercohype]

Yes, I have thought about this as well. The way the oppressors are devoted to their false God is disgusting. It is that the supreme leaders of our world, Spirit of Greed, power and lust control him like a puppet. He is not just anti Christ. He is anti human.