Men Are Not Approaching Women

[CARDOZZO]

What do you think is the problem? Is it a men's fault? Women's fault? Both? Cultural shifts?

I tend to see this videos all over the place, YT, Tik Tok, IG.

Women keep talking about this issue over and over again.

 

 

Edited 6 hours ago by CARDOZZO

[LifeEnjoyer]

I think men are just scared AF. For which reasons? I don’t know.

[CARDOZZO]

30 minutes ago, LifeEnjoyer said:

I think men are just scared AF. For which reasons? I don’t know.

It seems so. The rise of escourts, pornography, dopamine pools, netflix, feminism, Me Too, sexual scandals. Society is basically saying that if you are a horny heterosexual man, you are cooked. Do not approach, do not bother woman, leave us alone.

[LifeEnjoyer]

Just now, CARDOZZO said:

It seems so. The rise of escourts, pornography, dopamine pools, netflix, feminism, Me Too, sexual scandals. Society is basically saying that if you are a horny heterosexual man, you are cooked. Do not approach, do not bother woman, leave us alone.

Yeah and most of the guys from my high school (I graduated in 2022) are either crushing it, have to drink half a liter of vodka to talk to women or just gave up and started smoking weed playing on their computer games all day. The dichotomy is fucking crazy.

[CARDOZZO]

31 minutes ago, LifeEnjoyer said:

Yeah and most of the guys from my high school (I graduated in 2022) are either crushing it, have to drink half a liter of vodka to talk to women or just gave up and started smoking weed playing on their computer games all day. The dichotomy is fucking crazy.

Crazy, huh?

I don't drink alcohol since 2022. I do mostly daygame, approaching woman on the street, grocery stores, coffee shops, libraries. They do not freak out. They do not even reject you. They just say "Oh, I have a boyfriend". They always seem surprised.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

It could be that modern technology breeds comfort, instant gratification and pleasure (in general).

Approaching is counter to all of the above. 

Even small things now - submitting a paper for university as an example. I used to have to allot time and willpower to the endeavour. Now, you can just shove it all into chatGPT and complete things with minimal effort. I only need to grasp some elements. So much less time is invested into it. And because of this, *I* am less invested in it. We tend to value things we invest in. A human tendency. Yes, efficiency is up. I make no remark on technology being good or bad, I am looking more at onflow effects.

But we are only just learning the cost of shortcuts and quick results.

Persistent effort builds resilience. It normalises discomfort, it removes the grandiosity from failure. You learn to trust yourself. Failing and trying again. And learning from failures - learning the RIGHT thing. Reframes. Getting up and trying again.

The above, coupled with how technology also enables us to live rather insular lives, has changed how much we socialise face to face. I can go an entire weekend and not leave my apartment now - when I grew up, this simply wasn't possible. And you wouldn't want to; there was a limit on what you could do to self entertain, compared to now.

I think much of the above feeds a fear of intimacy. A fear of missing out (social media comparison). 'The grass is always greener'. We are sold something when we give our attention away to technology, social media, apps etc. Everyone is always looking for the BEST. For BETTER.

Satisfaction is down.

I guess for me, this is a non issue; I have always done the approaching if I was taken by a man. But I don't think I am normal in this

[Terell Kirby]

2 hours ago, LifeEnjoyer said:

I think men are just scared AF. For which reasons? I don’t know.

Balls on the chopping block.

95% mental, but a real obstacle for me. Only the brave will learn to approach 

[theleelajoker]

2 hours ago, CARDOZZO said:

What do you think is the problem? Is it a men's fault? Women's fault? Both? Cultural shifts?

I tend to see this videos all over the place, YT, Tik Tok, IG.

Women keep talking about this issue over and over again.

People are insecure AF. 

Nobody's "fault", we humans are just very good at creating things, norms, culture etc that are detrimental to us. 

E.g.,  in order to serve capitalism, we need to make people insecure so that they can buy their self worth with products. Education system would be another example, putting fear of failure inside you. And the immense focus on individuality in the west creates a bias towards accepted loneliness. Lastly, we take ourselves way too serious 😂

Edited 3 hours ago by theleelajoker

[Elliott]

Pickup is about sex, an immature version. The most efficient way to filter women is in natural social groups. Dating every girl you find cute, for something more than sex would be a gigantic time suck. People see through this foolishness more now.

Edited 2 hours ago by Elliott

[Basman]

Most of the discourse on this topic is very algorithmically driven, but it's true that men overall approach less now. I think it's a combination of technology use, a lack of education on how to be a man since feminism and simply not prioritizing socialization. At least in my experience, I have to actively make an effort to socialize. 

[Basman]

This topic gets co-opted a lot by culture warriors with an axe to grind as well an algorithmically driven need for drama.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

1 hour ago, Basman said:

This topic gets co-opted a lot by culture warriors with an axe to grind as well an algorithmically driven need for drama.

🎯 typically devolves into men vs women. Women blaming men. Men blaming women.

No one taking responsibility.

[Hojo]

@CARDOZZOI think they see everything on the internet being recorded. Bots on dating apps, having to compete with cell phones with woman. A whole bunch of stuff.

If you are dumb now, you are dumb to the entire internet.

They read so much information and all it said was, dont do that, dont do that, dont do that, dont do that, dont do that, dont do that, dont do that, dont do that, dont do that.

Its a good thing, men will find out quickly they dont need woman. Woman needs a man.

Let the woman stress out now. Every valentines day with no date. Time running out for child birth.

Valentines day can go by for a man without him even noticing.

Many men will get enlightened. Thousands of philosophers.

Edited 34 minutes ago by Hojo