Nobody knows anything

[Opulence]

You would only know something through thorough communication. Even with that you should be open to interpretations you thought were never possible.

[UnbornTao]

Love it. It could be taken a step further: What even is experience? What does it mean to experience something? 

[Monster Energy]

24 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

Love it. It could be taken a step further: What even is experience? What does it mean to experience something? 

Experience is what’s left when the story shuts up. 

 

[UnbornTao]

5 minutes ago, Monster Energy said:

Experience is what’s left when the story shuts up. 

Sounds like a good pointer. 

[Ramasta9]

18 hours ago, Monster Energy said:

Mentioning that people lack strong understanding and then quoting a Bible verse isn’t very wise. It’s not a good combination, and people won’t read it as intelligent. Instead, it comes across as someone who thinks they’re saying something profound, while actually lowering the quality of the message. Be more attentive to this going forward, or don’t.

 

That's cause most people on the internet are drowning in knowledge yet starving in wisdom. 

[Mellowmarsh]

10 hours ago, James123 said:

Even being attached to "nobody knows anything", isn't it still knowing?

“knowing” cannot be known in the same context an objective thing known in this conception.
 

The Observer Limitation: The "knower" or pure awareness cannot be made into an object of knowledge. The moment it is conceptualized, it becomes a "mental picture" rather than direct experience.

Fundamental Reality: The deepest truth is "boundless," and trying to grasp it as a "thing" is a limitation of the human mind, which relies on names, forms, and numbers.

Subject-Object Duality: The idea hinges on the impossibility of the subject (the one who knows) becoming the object (what is known).

In other words: Knowing is a knowing that cannot be known.

[Monster Energy]

1 hour ago, Ramasta9 said:

That's cause most people on the internet are drowning in knowledge yet starving in wisdom. 

Yes

[LastThursday]

15 hours ago, Mellowmarsh said:

The Observer Limitation: The "knower" or pure awareness cannot be made into an object of knowledge.

Doesn't the knower know it exists?

[Breakingthewall]

18 hours ago, UnbornTao said:

Love it. It could be taken a step further: What even is experience? What does it mean to experience something? 

Experience is reality structured in a dualistic way. For reality to be structured in a dualistic way, something very concrete called life must appear. Life is a very concrete emergent phenomenon, a phase change in the forms of the universe. It is a small universe self preservated with its own laws that operates within the laws of a larger universe and exchanges information with it. This is the basis of experience, what we call consciousness. 

Experiencing something is the exchange of information between the two universes. Can be very basic, like a cell, or extremely sophisticated like in a human. Where is the limit? Sure we don't know that. 

[UnbornTao]

10 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Experience is reality structured in a dualistic way. For reality to be structured in a dualistic way, something very concrete called life must appear. Life is a very concrete emergent phenomenon, a phase change in the forms of the universe. It is a small universe self preservated with its own laws that operates within the laws of a larger universe and exchanges information with it. This is the basis of experience, what we call consciousness. 

Experiencing something is the exchange of information between the two universes. Can be very basic, like a cell, or extremely sophisticated like in a human. Where is the limit? Sure we don't know that. 

Appreciate it.

[Breakingthewall]

16 hours ago, Mellowmarsh said:

The moment it is conceptualized, it becomes a "mental picture" rather than direct experience.

The point is that conceptualizing is direct experience. 

The human mind is a living reality that emerges from animal life and ascends to another phase of existence in which the living is freed from the limitations of the material.

The human mind is more alive and more direct than anything else living. But at the same time, it is a labyrinth of great difficulty. The mind struggles to align itself, just as every living being struggles to advance.

The first birds made small, clumsy flights. They were the embryo of the eagle's flight. The same is true of the mind. The human mind is an interface with the totality.

[UnbornTao]

20 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

The point is that conceptualizing is direct experience. 

Is it? 

For example, is seeing a tree the same as liking it? Do those exist in the same domain?