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Leo can't fix you because you are Neurodivergent

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31 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

Like when you use the word "passion oriented people" and then put "executive dysfunction" in parentheses afterwards, I feel existentially offended.

@Carl-Richard I 10000% agree with everything you said. But it is better to use negative language in a positive way, than be afraid of these labels and reject them because they are negative/pathological.

I made up (lol) the phrase "passion oriented person" exactly for this reason. I put executive dysfunction in parentheses so people can find the right ressources.

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5 minutes ago, Cred said:

But it is better to use negative language in a positive way, than be afraid of these labels and reject them because they are negative/pathological.

Or you can use different labels not constructed in a frame of "mental disorder". There is a reason why it's "ND" and not "mentally ill".


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5 hours ago, Human Mint said:

Lol. I am actually a natural leader, I would fit very good in a director type of position. But I would need a person like you to look people in the eyes and tell me what their needs are. I don't have the habit of looking people in the eyes, and that's a deal breaker for a lot of people.

I talked with my parents and they told me they were worried when I was a child because I would not look in the eyes of people. I might be a ND afterall.

I definitely do not shy away from eye contact. I am comfortable with this. 

I don't know if I am natural leader, but through my life, a repeated pattern shows up. People around me aren't as decisive, and shy away from responsibility. They haven't mastered projecting future outcomes, or extrapolate possibilities. They do tasks how they always do them; they don't assess them for review; make them more efficient, increase output by changing SOP. 

I am the sort of person to naturally take responsibility. I am decisive and don't doubt myself. Natural tendancies to check in, change how we do things in discussion, optimise. Explain clearly why we do the small steps, and how fudging them destroys and outcome. 

I don't ever try to lead; but doing the above I end up in positions of influence and power. Soon enough, despite me never out ranking anyone (work wise, family order etc) I end up being the person making decisions and directing. Colleagues end up coming to you with any queries or decisions. I much prefer to work under a director as 2ic, optimising process. 

If you mean well, speak wisdom from experience, and are ruthless with action, my experience is people will want you to lead them. 

There is also an added element; I am very un self-conscious. I don't really think about myself. I am too focussed on the person in front of me and the content of experience.

If you are able to make a hard choice for a good outcome, show transparency in decisions, people will endure bad shit for/with you. Back you. 

Pattern of my life. I never want power positions or director type roles. Last year I spent some time looking at this pattern in my life, and the above is what I think gets me into a pickle 🤪

Maybe you have these qualities, and they come out naturally? Figuring out people's core needs lets you tailor your leadership style, dovetailing to my personality profiling post above.

I've lead/managed teams of 42 people down to 5. 

My issue is, responsibility is heaped on me. So I end up /quit, rather than remain and make a career. But construction suits me well so I have moved to this as career, 2IC working as a GC.

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7 hours ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Wow we are alike.  I agree with this 100%.  

I am glad I could put it to words to be understood. Feelings and emotions can be nebulous in nature. 

I find in general people are much more willing to contemplate the existential nature of a cup; the ontology of a table.

Looking into feelings / emotions causes one to balk and withdraw. Feeling & emotions are such an important part of being human, yet most just gloss it all over - totally assuming they know what a feeling is. 'Oh I am just angry' and that's that. 

I don't think many people even know what their emotions are to even accuracy label them. I ask others questions about nuances + describe anxiety/stress/worry and the differences?

You will find many people just lump all the nuance of feeling under something like 'worry', 'angry' and be done with it. No further investigation needed. 

This sort of investigation works at our core conditioning and can lead to great progress. 

Walking emotion/feeling constipated people everywhere hehe 🙃

 


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