What Rare Psychedelics Have you Tried?

[Oppositionless]

What rare psychedelics have you tried? This could be anything from something not common where you live ie something like 2C-B or Mescaline for me which i have not tried because its never been available . To something that doesnt have much attention online.

Examples (that I'm curious about)

5-Bromo dmt (sea sponge dmt)

4 pro dmt 

NB dmt 

 

 

Edited 14 hours ago by Oppositionless

[Nemra]

Isn't DPT a rare psychedelic?

[Oppositionless]

6 minutes ago, Nemra said:

Isn't DPT a rare psychedelic?

Yeah there's lots 

What was that one like ? Did you see any bugs / insects?

 

Also curious about :

Dissos MXE , DCK, 2 FDCK

Empathogen  5 MAPB

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[Nemra]

4 hours ago, Oppositionless said:

What was that one like ? Did you see any bugs / insects?

The outlines of everything moved like eye floaters while being focused.

Imagine the lines of everything getting out of hand and forming crazy ways however they liked.

I was melting through lines, so to speak. The movements were so smooth.

Edited 8 hours ago by Nemra

[LambdaDelta]

'Rare' is a very relative term. The perception is skewed by a lack of knowledge of what's out there and how to obtain it. Now, not everyone has the inclination or means to be a huge chemistry/neuropharmacology nerd, nor do they need to. 
To people from shithole countries (by which I just mean the ones with very strict drug laws) even shrooms and MDMA are rare. For Americans, many of the things common here in the EU are a rarity sold at 4-5x premium, but sometimes the opposite is also true (e.g. MDA, NBMOes). 
These things change over time. MXE used to be widely available, but following the ban it's now so rare and mythical that people will pay hundreds of dollars per gram. And it's possible for the trend to reverse, as seen with the recent resurfacing of MDPV/A-PVP; you never know. 
A whole lot of dissos and lysergamides are gradually disappearing since their sole producer shut down end of 2024, some are already basically gone for good (DMXE, MXiPr...). Same with everything banned in the Netherlands last summer, except smart people have stockpiled them in advance and are now making bank reselling through darknet markets, but that is only for what was actually popular (6-APB, 2-FMA, NEP...) and will eventually deplete too; many were not deemed desirable enough and so have pretty much quietly died out. Even RC benzos which were a dime a dozen recently disappeared almost overnight, and now suddenly everyone wants some. 

So, by my standards, 'rare' would not be: something that used to be abundant but disappeared temporarily/permanently for one reason or the other, something nobody ever bothered to put to market or even just synthesize because it's obviously inactive/toxic, pathetic analogues freshly introduced to 'replace' the proper substance they're aping to bypass regulations, something you can't access because you live in a tight jurisdiction and/or cannot obtain through darknet markets or similar channels because you're too ignorant/afraid to use them, something you must extract yourself from a pharma product or a plant, something almost always sold as racemic but only one of the isomers is desired (e.g. s-Ketamine, d-Methamphetamine), something rare-ish but still enough people have tried.
Which really only leaves substances that are proven to be active and perhaps extremely potent, but are only available either through analytical standards providers such as LGC or Sigma-Aldrich that will not sell to anyone without a license, or may be ordered as a custom synthesis from a legitimate/clandestine lab, which will cost several thousands at least.

From my current list, Salvinorin B ethoxymethyl ether and (+)-MK-801 qualify. Both required impersonating a professional researcher to purchase from the labs and clear customs, not to mention the ridiculous cost (~300$ for 1mg of Sal B). Also, both are around 10x more potent than the next best thing in their class, on paper at least. However, as I learned the hard way, nominal potency isn't everything; sure, they work at even the tiniest doses, but the effects themselves are nothing mindblowing. Certainly not worth all the hassle and money spent, though still an interesting experience to have once. I'd take Salvinorin A and 3-HO-PCP over these two any day. 
Just cost of doing business in highly experimental research like that. Through it I've been able to narrow down the substances that work best for me and now it's simply a matter of maintaining the supply. You might be surprised how much 'vanilla' stuff ends up on the final list. A "what I've been searching for has been right beside me all along, yet the journey was worth it nonetheless" kind of story. 

Edited 3 hours ago by LambdaDelta

[Davino]

I have in my stash Bliss pellets (5-MAPB+2-FMA+5-MeO-MiPT), a combination to be like MDMA but better and safer, but haven't found the moment to try it out.

[Oppositionless]

@LambdaDelta haha that's a great story.

yeah classics are classic for a reason 

Interesting how you said 3 meo pcp is one of your favorites. I've never been exposed to any dissociatives besides ketamine. I'm a little afraid to try anything pcp related because of a lot of bad press, people going crazy and eating faces and shit lol.

 

@Davino interesting! My cursory research on 2 FMA suggests it's not recreational , but maybe mixed with the other two it adds something! 
 

@Nemra I remember being confused when Leo said 5 meo malt was the other God molecule bc I thought he said DPT was the other God molecule lol.

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[Davino]

@Oppositionless My approach is definitely not recreational. MDMA is not necessarily recreational, it's much more profound and multidimensional than what most people realize.

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[Oppositionless]

21 minutes ago, Davino said:

@Oppositionless My approach is definitely not recreational. MDMA is not necessarily recreational, it's much more profound and multidimensional than what most people realize.

Okay that's really intriguing. I've had some for over a year but also haven't found the right time . 

I actually don't think I've ever had a proper roll because I was always on ssris whenever I tried to take it in the past (I know that's incredibly risky, but that was what happened). 
 

Do you think it's really good for healing / self esteem? Could it help with just not feeling very comfortable in your own skin?

[PsychedelicEagle]

Mescaline is the substance — although arguably not super rare — that I enjoy the most.

Every time I use mescaline, if I talk to a beautiful girl, I fall in love with her.

 

[Oppositionless]

4 minutes ago, PsychedelicEagle said:

Mescaline is the substance — although arguably not super rare — that I enjoy the most.

Every time I use mescaline, if I talk to a beautiful girl, I fall in love with her.

 

For me it is! I'd be thrilled if I could get my hands on some pure synthetic mescaline . Ik I could just buy a legal cactus but I'm not interested in killing it, or getting sick, lol.

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[LambdaDelta]

33 minutes ago, Oppositionless said:

Interesting how you said 3 meo pcp is one of your favorites. I've never been exposed to any dissociatives besides ketamine. I'm a little afraid to try anything pcp related because of a lot of bad press, people going crazy and eating faces and shit lol.

3-HO, not 3-MeO. The latter is actually more stimmy and manic, as are all methyls/methoxys vs. hydroxys inside the 3-sub PCP/PCE analogues group (and PCE is also more unstable than PCP). The stories are true, but it was a different time (just one of the factors to account for is that leaded gasoline was still prevalent, and we all know how that affects aggression and such). PCP was smoked, which is basically disso crack; also weed was often laced with it. And the most extreme shit came from already mentally unwell people, as it always does. Nothing inherently dangerous about PCP itself if handled properly. A potent disso like that can be used to access unique states of consciousness where it's literally possible to rewrite your identity, but that's a topic for another time.  
 

1 hour ago, Oppositionless said:

interesting! My cursory research on 2 FMA suggests it's not recreational , but maybe mixed with the other two it adds something! 

It's not, especially not at the 20mg dose inside those pellets. It's only there to provide the amphetamine effects without overstimulation to closer emulate MDMA. The Borax combo is neither better nor safer really, just another marketing trick. Pure MDMA + a decent supplementation protocol is undeniably superior. Trouble is people are so stupid many cannot discern purity and will in fact interpret signs of impurity as purity. So maybe for those a premixed RC pill is preferable, at least that way they can avoid the cuts/synth residuals, but not neurotoxicity.  
I've made good money selling off my 2-FMA after the ban, it's rather overhyped as a functional stim.