Lesson : Power is not consent based. Donald trump & the peace prize

[LordFall]

This situation is a great lesson in power and status. The Nobel Committee can choose to not recognize trump as the shared or full recipient if Maria Machado decides to give it to Trump this week but if she does and he takes it their opinion is irrelevant. It will diminish their credibility and increase his. 

That's how power works. It's about what happens and who can have effect on reality. Not our opinions about it. 

48 laws of power should be on the book list, it's a simple and fun book to read that explain so much about how the world works. 

To be a positive actor for change(or a negative one) you must be extremely well versed at how power works or how to use it or you'll just be commenting on people changing the world. 

Like him or not, Trump is a masterclass on power and status. Anybody that doesn't respect his political skill is a fool. Anybody calling him stupid is a fool. Your opinion doesn't really matter, only results in life. The fact that he's a narcissistic sociopath doesn't change his success. It's surely a concerning situation but also a brilliant representation of the current stage of development of our species. 

Edited yesterday at 07:51 PM by LordFall

[Jodistrict]

Shahid Bolsen talks a lot about real power.  He claims that protests are a waste of time because those with power don’t care about your opinion.   The immature progressives lost their power because they didn’t understand it and pushed pointless wedge issues that made them unpopular.   Trump will also lose power in the last minutes of his life.  He will finally understand that it was all for nothing.  He came into the world naked and he will go out naked.  He is not as smart as you think.   

[LordFall]

Intelligence is not the same thing as wisdom and consciousness. Plenty of people that are a liability to themselves and others are incredibly smart but think in ineffective ways or drown in their own corrupt and sick minds. 

I don't think protests are fully a waste of time, they apply political pressure. You need leverage more than pressure though.

For example, the current protestors in Iran need a planned transition government, support from neighbouring states and support from the local military to hope to overthrow the current regime. Protest by itself will get them shot in the streets until they've suffered enough to go home sadly. 

[BlueOak]

I'd just remove America from the countries that can ever receive it and blacklist them.

Then we'll see where the power of the award lies. If that becomes impossible, it's time for a new award structure.

Edited 12 hours ago by BlueOak

[Basman]

Authoritarian regimes clearly care about what people think and say aloud about their regime. Or they wouldn't bother with suppressing speech, killing protesters and dissidents, etc. 

[Sandroew]

The Trump era is a lesson on what happens if your education system fails and your checks on corruption fails.

 

It got so bad he can blatantly get away with breaking the rule of law, but he is exploiting the system that was built on principles by people a lot more intelligent than him. He is successful because he doesnt follow the rules and principles, but that only makes him a success as a leech.

 

A civilization with integrity that is conscious of its goal is way more effective and productive than a civilization that follows the principle of Might is Right. The former is way more intelligent than the latter. The latter is literally a backstep in development.

 

Do you think the internet would exist if Trump was the norm ? The internet exist because the system we created enabled cooperation to a level that we were able to build a global system that benefited everyone. Trump is only degrading the social structure.

 

He is only powerful because he is the equivalent of a human leech. Calling that a success is a misunderstanding of where we were headed in the last 2000 years of civilization.