What spiritual teachers actually teach Solipsism

[Inliytened1]

Just now, Carl-Richard said:

Solipsism is not heavy. Death of the self is heavy.

Careful.  Death of the self is merely realizing the self is a thought.  Via self inquiry.  Its this kind of trap that keeps everyone from awakening. 

[Joseph Maynor]

3 minutes ago, Hojo said:

I kinda fell into the trap of listening to spiritual teachers because I got enlightened and I didnt know what the fuck was happening. I was already meditating via drinking alcohol and I already got the cosmic joke. Then I saw spiritual teachers and I listen to them but they are talking about people that havent gotten the joke yet. I already got the joke I dont need to listen to this shit. I already was aware I already was mindful. When I listen to this shit I feel like im not doing it but getting the cosmic joke means I was. I just did it a different way.

I tried to listen to Peter Ralston the other day and got thru maybe 5 mins of the video.  No offense to anyone who gets value from his work.  

[aurum]

2 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

Solipsism is not heavy. Death of the self is heavy.

Same thing.

The point is, you're not ready to understand God. So of course no one teaches it.

[Hojo]

Death makes people scared solipsism just disgusts people because they dont want to think about it.

Death = terrifying

Solipsism = crazy

Edited yesterday at 04:14 AM by Hojo

[Inliytened1]

9 minutes ago, Hojo said:

Death makes people scared solipsism just disgusts people because they dont want to think about it.

Death = terrifying

Solipsism = crazy

Look. Here is the reality.  Science will try to fight this to the end of times.  But quantum physics proved it. Einstein and Bohr knew it in the end.

Bohr desperately wanted to say otherwise.  But he and Einstein knew it.

There is no material reality

What does this mean to you?

It means there isnt anything outside your door.  

It shouldn't be a negative.

Edited yesterday at 04:23 AM by Inliytened1

[Hojo]

@Inliytened1Thats just how people will take it when you tell them.

[Inliytened1]

3 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@Inliytened1Thats just how people will take it when you tell them.

Materialism was debunked by Bohr and Einstein decades ago. 

[aurum]

18 minutes ago, Hojo said:

Death = terrifying

Solipsism = crazy

That's not a clean distinction.

You're terrified of being crazy.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

1 hour ago, Inliytened1 said:

Leo is a brilliant teacher but he's not enlightened.

Do you claim this, or does Leo?

[Inliytened1]

Just now, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Do you claim this, or does Leo?

Does it matter?

In the end it's very paradoxical.  If hes enlightened hes still within my own mind.

 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Just now, Inliytened1 said:

Does it matter?

In the end it's very paradoxical.  If hes enlightened hes still within my own mind.

 

Well yeah, it does. 

Have you developed a way to detect enlightenment with certainty? 

 

[Inliytened1]

2 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Well yeah, it does. 

Have you developed a way to detect enlightenment with certainty? 

 

Haha. When you awaken the others are NPCs. 

Edited yesterday at 04:43 AM by Inliytened1

[Carl-Richard]

39 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Careful.  Death of the self is merely realizing the self is a thought.  Via self inquiry.  Its this kind of trap that keeps everyone from awakening. 

Death of the self means you're literally dying every single moment of your existence.

[Hojo]

@Inliytened1I think people are in their own minds seperately. IE you arent not witnessing objective reality objective reality is being shown into your eyes into your subjective reality. In your own subjective conciousness only what you think is happening is happening. Now there is someone on the other side of the room and the exact same thing is happening to them. When you meet you are merging your conciousness' together and both decide subjectively what is going on. While they are npcs because you get to control how you feel about them, and you are just seeing a 2dimensional representation of them, they might exist in another dimension like how you exist in another dimension. 

Its possible for another to exist. In this body its solipsism but it might not be totally solipsism. 

Like if life is a simulation and you are outside the simulation playing it, it could be possible for it to be a MMO. It cant be a MMO to your computer but there might be something behind the character that isnt actually there on your computer screen. Similar to how this forum dosent have people in it but there are people somewhere else outside the forum using the forum to communicate.

Edited yesterday at 04:48 AM by Hojo

[Carl-Richard]

3 minutes ago, Hojo said:

Its possible for another to exist.

Denying other, denying multiplicity, denying maya, is cool and all, but as Ramana Maharshi would have said, deny it all the way. Yourself as a person in the dream, that is also maya. If it's possible for you as a person in the dream to exist, it's possible for others in the dream to exist.

[Inliytened1]

5 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@Inliytened1I think people are in their own minds seperately. IE you arent not witnessing objective reality objective reality is being shown into your eyes into your subjective reality. In your own subjective conciousness only what you think is happening is happening. Now there is someone on the other side of the room and the exact same thing is happening to them. When you meet you are merging your conciousness' together and both decide subjectively what is going on. While they are npcs because you get to control how you feel about them they might exist in another dimension like how you exist in another dimension. 

No. You are God.  You are imagining all other.  Your picture is hot by the way.

Edited yesterday at 04:49 AM by Inliytened1

[Hojo]

@Carl-RichardYou dont exist in the dream the same way you dont exist in an mmo. But you are outside the MMO playing the character.

[Hojo]

@Inliytened1According gnostisim God created infinite versions of itself. So you can be God and I can be God separately.

[Hojo]

@Inliytened1The myth is that God created infinite versions of itself and then one of the Gods created its own God thats unloving and we are living in it right now. We use this God to fuck around and be selfish in and to learn and be more loving towards ourselves as God.

Edited yesterday at 04:56 AM by Hojo

[Inliytened1]

14 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Well yeah, it does. 

Have you developed a way to detect enlightenment with certainty? 

 

You're gonna know when you awaken from the dream.  This is a dream but it feels so fucking real. So real. We have to survive in it.  That is what makes it so real.  But it is a dream nevertheless. 

Edited yesterday at 04:55 AM by Inliytened1