Green Bypassing

[Butters]

How do you know if haven't fully integrated Green yet? 

Edited 9 hours ago by Butters

[Carl-Richard]

16 minutes ago, Butters said:

How do you know if haven't fully integrated Green yet? 

When you're stuck making Blue comments.

Edited 8 hours ago by Carl-Richard

[UnbornTao]

Make a real question - from experience. An adopted model of the world is just that, and no model is ever true. It can even become a distraction from genuine inquiry.

I'd first ask myself what I'm trying to understand in a concrete way. What are you asking, specifically?

Edited 8 hours ago by UnbornTao

[Butters]

2 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

When you're stuck making Blue comments.

I don't get this.

2 hours ago, UnbornTao said:

I'd first ask myself what I'm trying to understand in a concrete way. What are you asking, specifically?

I had a much more concrete question at first, but I thought the general question is a much better one. But specifically, for example: I don't really care about nature or feeling bad about climate change. Does that mean I haven't fully integrated Green yet? 

[UnbornTao]

7 minutes ago, Butters said:

I don't get this.

I had a much more concrete question at first, but I thought the general question is a much better one. But specifically, for example: I don't really care about nature or feeling bad about climate change. Does that mean I haven't fully integrated Green yet? 

This framing is better, in my view, because it feels a bit more grounded. As for your question - where is it coming from? Who said you have to?

I guess my gripe with this kind of thinking is that it's once again based on artificial ground - a certain way of seeing the world that's been taken on and believed by you. Setting aside models, you could ask yourself what expectations and values you hold in regards to collective survival, and pursue those consciously. Sorry if this isn't what you were asking for.

[Hojo]

When you take spiral dynamics as a personal growth chart. Throw it away its just another mind grip. The worst thing leo did was talk about this chart. You understand one you reach the top you will go around again to the bottom? Whats the point in trying to be a colour? Before you were born you were the highest level. Why you wanna go back so fast?

Edited 3 hours ago by Hojo