The US potentially attacking Europe

[Elliott]

If Europe doesn't want the u.s. to liberate the world, then why did they give the Venezuelan opposition leader the Nobel peace prize(this was at the direction of u.s. secretary of state), and Trump himself the inaugural FIFA peace prize?

We will liberate europe like we did Iraq.

https://www.reuters.com/world/nobel-peace-prize-winner-be-announced-year-overshadowed-by-trump-2025-10-10/

Venezuela's opposition leader Machado wins Nobel Peace Prize ...

Oct 11, 2025 — Marco Rubio nominated Machado for the Peace Prize together with a group of U.S. members of Congress in August

 

Edited yesterday at 11:24 AM by Elliott

[Basman]

8 hours ago, Elliott said:

I see nothing wrong with us getting our money back. Who gives a crap about what Europeans think.

Besides the UK and Russia, all European countries have paid their debts in full since WW2. But you clearly don't deal in facts, but in selective memories. Whatever suits you ideologically in the moment. 

Your a "might-makes-right" post-truth authoritarian. You only care about sound bites.

Ironially, this is a sign of American decline and it losing its influence globally. 

[Elliott]

1 minute ago, Basman said:

Besides the UK and Russia, all European countries have paid their debts in full since WW2. But you clearly don't deal in facts, but in selective memories. Whatever suits you ideologically in the moment. 

Your a "might-makes-right" post-truth authoritarian. You only care about sound bites.

Ironially, this is a sign of American decline and it losing its influence globally. 

Might does make right, do cows eat humans?

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

41 minutes ago, Elliott said:

???

Look at all this money. New Golden age of America!!!

We're all going to be rich. Greenland minerals, Canada's oil, Europe's workers!

My point still stands. You cannot occupy Europe and make them do your bidding with a profesional military only, you'd need conscripts and wartime economy. There is no political will for that. Russia could theoretically mobilize millions of men but their realistic actual manpower pool is much lower. I know this is way too much for your tiny US brain to comprehend

[Basman]

1 minute ago, Elliott said:

Might does make right, do cows eat humans?

Unchecked power does make for a worse, more corrupt society and leaders that lose touch with reality.  Putin litterally thought that he was going to die if he didn't invade Ukraine.

Big corporations will pay tribute to king Trump in bribes and gifts while they enslave you and your children.

[Elliott]

15 minutes ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

My point still stands. You cannot occupy Europe and make them do your bidding with a profesional military only, you'd need conscripts and wartime economy. There is no political will for that. Russia could theoretically mobilize millions of men but their realistic actual manpower pool is much lower. I know this is way too much for your tiny US brain to comprehend

We definitely have to be strategic

1- start selling Venezuelan oil. Make a lot of money

2. Greenland. Then sell Greenland minerals---> money

3. Then we bomb Canada and take their oil---> money

Then eventually -- Europe.

[Elliott]

13 minutes ago, Basman said:

Unchecked power does make for a worse, more corrupt society and leaders that lose touch with reality.  Putin litterally thought that he was going to die if he didn't invade Ukraine.

Big corporations will pay tribute to king Trump in bribes and gifts while they enslave you and your children.

I don't see anything wrong with this.

[Basman]

7 minutes ago, Elliott said:

I don't see anything wrong with this.

I don't think any argument could sway you because your post-truth. You don't deal with reality on a fundamental level. 

You like Trump because you don't like checks on your narcissism. Trump is narcissism the political party.

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

12 minutes ago, Elliott said:

We definitely have to be strategic

1- start selling Venezuelan oil. Make a lot of money

2. Greenland. Then sell Greenland minerals---> money

3. Then we bomb Canada and take their oil---> money

Then eventually -- Europe.

We'll see about that. All these countries would have to give up and voluntarily give their shit over, the moment any of these countries decide to actually defend themselves there will be trouble.

I know what you're trying to do now, you are trolling us with a hierarchical way of thinking as a warning against the extreme negatives that could come from it, yes indeed anarchist we should all just give up all hierarchies and sing Kumbaya and everything will be peacefull and dandy, get nipple piercings and become anarcho wokie vegan feminists. We get it

Edited yesterday at 12:02 PM by NewKidOnTheBlock

[Elliott]

9 minutes ago, Basman said:

I don't think any argument could sway you because your post-truth. You don't deal with reality on a fundamental level. 

You like Trump because you don't like checks on your narcissism. Trump is narcissism the political party.

How is that "post truth"? Might makes right, it's just reality, right is subjective.

[Elliott]

16 minutes ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

We'll see about that. All these countries would have to give up and voluntarily give their shit over, the moment any of these countries decide to actually defend themselves there will be trouble.

Oh definitely there will be resistance, but we're ready for it.

Quote

I know what you're trying to do now, you are trolling us with a hierarchical way of thinking as a warning against the extreme negatives that could come from it, yes indeed anarchist we should all just give up all hierarchies and sing Kumbaya and everything will be peacefull and dandy, get nipple piercings and become anarcho wokie vegan feminists. We get it

🤭

Anarchy means fighting hierarchy, mostly with education and dialogue, cooperation. Anarchy first requires everyone, everyone, to be intelligent and moral. We're not at a point for anarchy, hence-- bombing canada!

Edited yesterday at 12:18 PM by Elliott

[Sincerity]

9 hours ago, Elliott said:

Once we take Greenland(going to happen( no ones going to do shit about it)) we can then indiscriminately bomb Canada into being our latest tax paying territory. Then there's just no stopping us, Europe can either pay us or we'll easily just change regimes to ones that will.

23 minutes ago, Elliott said:

We definitely have to be strategic

1- start selling Venezuelan oil. Make a lot of money

2. Greenland. Then sell Greenland minerals---> money

3. Then we bomb Canada and take their oil---> money

Then eventually -- Europe.

A friendly reminder of the Forum Guidelines:

Quote

Basic guidelines for quality posting:

• No right-wing political dogma, talking-points, Trumpism, or denial of basic facts.

Quote

What’s NOT Allowed:

• Right-wing propaganda, nationalist ideologies

Stop spreading these dogmatic right-wing talking points. Trumpism is not allowed on the forum.

[Elliott]

1 minute ago, Sincerity said:

A friendly reminder of the Forum Guidelines:

Stop spreading these dogmatic right-wing talking points. Trumpism is not allowed on the forum.

Point to where I spread "trumpism"? Being a bully and lying about me is against the rules too, so ban yourself if you're Sincere about this.

Edited yesterday at 12:20 PM by Elliott

[Sincerity]

Just now, Elliott said:

Point to where I spread "trumpism"?

Have some self-awareness, dude.

[zazen]

10 minutes ago, Elliott said:

How is that "post truth"? Might makes right, it's just reality, right is subjective.

Reality isn’t purely material darwinianism and law of the jungle. Might makes right is pre-concious,  although utopian liberals think being concious means rejecting the reality of power/survival dynamics existing or that they are above it.

Power needs to be buffered by principles that come from our own conscience intuition of what is “right” and “wrong”.

A lot of the right wing just want to default to our animal nature because it’s simpler than dealing with the complexity of having to nurture nature to more humane ends that actually create civilization.

Edited yesterday at 12:22 PM by zazen

[Sincerity]

We're trying to do conscious politics here. It's a self-improvement forum - as the name says, we're trying to become something better.

Let's not mindlessly spread nationalist and right-wing propaganda. Any propaganda, for that matter. Please report posts that are egregious in this.

[eliasvelez]

48 minutes ago, Elliott said:

Point to where I spread "trumpism"? Being a bully and lying about me is against the rules too, so ban yourself if you're Sincere about this.

funny, not only are your views very right wing but also your victim mentality is

Edited yesterday at 01:08 PM by eliasvelez

[museumoftrees]

6 hours ago, eliasvelez said:

funny, not only are your views very right wing but also your victim mentality is

[AerisVahnEphelia]

8 hours ago, zazen said:

Reality isn’t purely material darwinianism and law of the jungle. Might makes right is pre-concious,  although utopian liberals think being concious means rejecting the reality of power/survival dynamics existing or that they are above it.

Power needs to be buffered by principles that come from our own conscience intuition of what is “right” and “wrong”.

A lot of the right wing just want to default to our animal nature because it’s simpler than dealing with the complexity of having to nurture nature to more humane ends that actually create civilization.

Those Low level creatures mistake noise for insight and reduce everything to shallow tribal clownery.

Edited 18 hours ago by AerisVahnEphelia

[AerisVahnEphelia]

9 hours ago, Elliott said:

How is that "post truth"? Might makes right, it's just reality, right is subjective.

It does, but you have no idea what makes “might”.

Don’t cry when the war in Ukraine is over, and when the EU finally makes a deal with Russia and China to band together against US interests for their own.

The USA is going to wake up completely isolated, with the whole world blocking it from markets, while the dollar crashes because everyone moves to BRICS and stops using US tech or apps anymore. France has its own AI, and Chinese AI anyway.

China is a trade nation; it sells mainly to the EU.

Right now, this does look like a plausible path if the USA does not impeach this clown and get on its knees to beg the EU for forgiveness.

https://x.com/NXT4EU/status/2008969002899640801

Edited 18 hours ago by AerisVahnEphelia