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Democrats at 18% approval, all time low

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I can speak to this - the Dem's brand is in the toilet because the Democratic base wants: 1) A party that fights back against Trump's authoritarian power grab. 2) A bold agenda centered around affordability.

Instead, current Democratic leadership seems content to roll over for fascism, and make small tweaks to an economic system that's not working for ordinary people.

Unlike the GOP which is a Cult of personality with a built-in approval rating floor (around 30% of the country will support Dear Leader no matter what), the Dems have to earn their approval rating. And Democratic leadership is doing a terrible job, practicing an outdated style of politics from thirty years ago. 

This isn't about the age of people running for office (at least not entirely), it's about an Old versus New style of politics (think Chuck Schumer versus Mamdani).

 

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1 hour ago, DocWatts said:

I can speak to this - the Dem's brand is in the toilet because the Democratic base wants: 1) A party that fights back against Trump's authoritarian power grab. 2) A bold agenda centered around affordability.

Instead, current Democratic leadership seems content to roll over for fascism, and make small tweaks to an economic system that's not working for ordinary people.

Unlike the GOP which is a Cult of personality with a built-in approval rating floor (around 30% of the country will support Dear Leader no matter what), the Dems have to earn their approval rating. And Democratic leadership is doing a terrible job, practicing an outdated style of politics from thirty years ago. 

This isn't about the age of people running for office (at least not entirely), it's about an Old versus New style of politics (think Chuck Schumer versus Mamdani).

 

Yep. You've phrased it better than me. :)

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Democrats have been smoking republicans in elections.


"Finding your reason can be so deceiving, a subliminal place. 

I will not break, 'cause I've been riding the curves of these infinity words and so I'll be on my way. I will not stay.

 And it goes On and On, On and On"

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On 18/12/2025 at 5:57 PM, Elliott said:

Cope harder

Projection?

How is posting a poll coping?

 

On 18/12/2025 at 6:43 PM, aurum said:

Democrats have been smoking republicans in elections.


Yes. That's how fragile democracy is. That this is the winning number.

 

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4 hours ago, BlueOak said:

Projection?

How is posting a poll coping?
 

Selective reading? Can't read the rest of my post?

 

Cope harder. Democrats are winning seats they haven't won in 60 years. You're polling entitled Americans, look at what these socialists on here post complaining about and then look at what the people from other countries make fun of them about. 

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5 hours ago, Elliott said:

Selective reading? Can't read the rest of my post?

 

Cope harder. Democrats are winning seats they haven't won in 60 years. You're polling entitled Americans, look at what these socialists on here post complaining about and then look at what the people from other countries make fun of them about. 

Ah I see you are trolling.

Carry on.

Here let me try: America is in great political shape, best in years.

One decently competent dictator and you are all cooked. 
 

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Just now, BlueOak said:

Ah I see you are trolling.

Carry on.

Here let me try: America is in great political shape, best in years.

You're deluded.

 

boltsmag.org

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In 2025, Democrats Flipped 21 Percent of GOP-Held Legislative Seats | Bolts

Dec 10, 2025 — At the start of Donald Trump's first presidency, in 2017, large Democratic victories in New Jersey and Virginia, paired with overperformances in 

 

PBS

https://www.pbs.org

This poll number hasn't been so favorable for Democrats since before ...

Nov 19, 2025 — According to a new PBS News/NPR/Marist poll, a majority of voters say they would rather elect a Democratic candidate if the

 

 

Democrats just lost the presidency, and we're into a 7 year and going recession, why the hell would any American say they're satisfied. You're crazy, grasping at straw to...... once again tarnish Democrats instead of campaigning against Republicans, just like you all did against Harris. Pathetic.

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17 hours ago, Elliott said:

You're deluded.

 

boltsmag.org

https://boltsmag.org

In 2025, Democrats Flipped 21 Percent of GOP-Held Legislative Seats | Bolts

Dec 10, 2025 — At the start of Donald Trump's first presidency, in 2017, large Democratic victories in New Jersey and Virginia, paired with overperformances in 

 

PBS

https://www.pbs.org

This poll number hasn't been so favorable for Democrats since before ...

Nov 19, 2025 — According to a new PBS News/NPR/Marist poll, a majority of voters say they would rather elect a Democratic candidate if the

 

 

Democrats just lost the presidency, and we're into a 7 year and going recession, why the hell would any American say they're satisfied. You're crazy, grasping at straw to...... once again tarnish Democrats instead of campaigning against Republicans, just like you all did against Harris. Pathetic.


Okay. Its almost unbelievable you are unable to see this, but i'll assume you can't. And because you can't i'll apologize for my earlier assumption.

America hates your political parties.
People have lost faith in your political parties

Yes the democrats are winning, that's the point! They are doing it while people hate them! 
Nobody is saying the republicans are winning.


The economy is tanking yes, for the entire world as we splinter up into warring parties. Some countries are crashing harder than others, Iran and Russia for example.

People hate the Democrats; they are just less hated because during an economic crisis they are not in charge. Its got absolute nothing to do with the democratic leadership or their brand. They have failed to modernise, fail to appeal to any popular vote, and rode the status quo out till it suited their interests. (While people still hate the status quo)

It would take but one change of strategy to have vastly more appeal to the voters.
To appear like the change party.

*I fully stand by my statement; if your opponents had the ability to adapt and were not too old to change their angle, some degree of intelligence, and even if an actual dictator was running, you'd all be cooked.

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3 hours ago, BlueOak said:


Okay. Its almost unbelievable you are unable to see this, but i'll assume you can't. And because you can't i'll apologize for my earlier assumption.

America hates your political parties.
People have lost faith in your political parties

Yes the democrats are winning, that's the point! They are doing it while people hate them! 
Nobody is saying the republicans are winning.


The economy is tanking yes, for the entire world as we splinter up into warring parties. Some countries are crashing harder than others, Iran and Russia for example.

People hate the Democrats; they are just less hated because during an economic crisis they are not in charge. Its got absolute nothing to do with the democratic leadership or their brand. They have failed to modernise, fail to appeal to any popular vote, and rode the status quo out till it suited their interests. (While people still hate the status quo)

It would take but one change of strategy to have vastly more appeal to the voters.
To appear like the change party.

*I fully stand by my statement; if your opponents had the ability to adapt and were not too old to change their angle, some degree of intelligence, and even if an actual dictator was running, you'd all be cooked.

Here's how retarded socialists are, these are their arguments, " electeds shouldn't sway based on public opinions, just do what's right even if unpopular!" " dEmOcRaTs hAvE lOw aPpRoVaL, need to promise free everything NOW!!!!"

 

If we would run Bernie, aoc, mamdani, any of the socialdolts, we would lose everything and massively. You're COMPLETELY backwards. People don't want it, only lazy baristas do. But hey, lazy baristas are terminally online and take-up most of the bandwidth so they must be right!!!! Get off the internet...

You don't know what you're talking about, you're being bamboozled. Poor people get free health insurance in the u.s.. The people crying about billionaires keep buying truck loads, LITERAL truck loads of these billionaires junk. The power is within YOU blueoak, just quit buying billionaires junk and the money will stay with you instead of going to them!

You're worried about satisfying entitled idiots, what are you gonna do give out free cheese? It's not a bad thing that people don't fawn over politicians; 1.) it makes it easier for better people to run, 2.) We don't want 'leaders', we want direct democracy. It should be expected in entitled, stupid America that people aren't satisfied with democrats in a poll.

You think "democrats aren't the change party", You're insane.

Run a better party/candidate, oh ya that's right, socialists are too lazy to do absolutely anything except campaign against democrats (in republican v. Democrat races)

 

Lay off the caramel machiado, fella, you've had too much.

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On 23/12/2025 at 11:24 AM, Elliott said:

Here's how retarded socialists are, these are their arguments, " electeds shouldn't sway based on public opinions, just do what's right even if unpopular!" " dEmOcRaTs hAvE lOw aPpRoVaL, need to promise free everything NOW!!!!"

 

If we would run Bernie, aoc, mamdani, any of the socialdolts, we would lose everything and massively. You're COMPLETELY backwards. People don't want it, only lazy baristas do. But hey, lazy baristas are terminally online and take-up most of the bandwidth so they must be right!!!! Get off the internet...

You don't know what you're talking about, you're being bamboozled. Poor people get free health insurance in the u.s.. The people crying about billionaires keep buying truck loads, LITERAL truck loads of these billionaires junk. The power is within YOU blueoak, just quit buying billionaires junk and the money will stay with you instead of going to them!

You're worried about satisfying entitled idiots, what are you gonna do give out free cheese? It's not a bad thing that people don't fawn over politicians; 1.) it makes it easier for better people to run, 2.) We don't want 'leaders', we want direct democracy. It should be expected in entitled, stupid America that people aren't satisfied with democrats in a poll.

You think "democrats aren't the change party", You're insane.

Run a better party/candidate, oh ya that's right, socialists are too lazy to do absolutely anything except campaign against democrats (in republican v. Democrat races)

 

Lay off the caramel machiado, fella, you've had too much.

I guess I hit pretty close to the mark with that outburst.

As a reminder. My point was people hate the democrats.

Which you've failed to address in that entire response. Other than to say we don't need them and then proceed to insult people who don't vote for your party. Wild oddly claiming they are the ones acting entitled (nice projection again)  

Then add 500 things I never said to respond to. Even the slightest change in messaging, which would take barely any effort, you are resistant to. Talk about stuck in your ways.

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