Truth

[Joseph Maynor]

2 minutes ago, Someone here said:

You still recovering from phillophilia? 😂 

No.  Love of Wisdom is the inverse of suffering.  

[Mellowmarsh]

1 hour ago, Someone here said:

I love being naked .clothes are social conditioning. We can be polite and not just jump on each other's asses still ..I don't see most animals suffer from that 

 

You are still bound by your social conditioning. It’s how the human species operates. Unlike animals that can just do what they want which some might say they are luckier than humans I guess. 
 

 

[James123]

1 hour ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Only you can answer. Other wise is not your wise.

I am not wise. 😊 

[Mellowmarsh]

39 minutes ago, James123 said:

I am not wise. 😊 

Affirmative. 😊

[Dodo]

On 14/12/2025 at 2:22 PM, Someone here said:

@Dodo he is saying there is zero distance between "you " and "truth " . You don't need to seek it and you can't find it..because it is already you .

Oooh ok, like its my first day of Advaita 😆 thanks for telling me the eye cant see itself. Im saying stopping "seeking", "looking" or "practice" is not needed to Be. 

I can have more clarity on being than someone else who is without a deepening practice. 

Edited yesterday at 02:36 PM by Dodo

[Carl-Richard]

8 hours ago, James123 said:

My brother No. non existence or existence, Muslim, christian, neo Adviata, Adviata are still belief. Belongs to mind and body.

I'm sorry I couldn't help.

[Mellowmarsh]

21 hours ago, James123 said:

I am not wise. 😊 

Is it wise or not wise to make the claim “I am not wise” ? 

 

[Mellowmarsh]

On 13/12/2025 at 10:06 PM, James123 said:

İf you are trying to be right, you are wrong.

İf you think you find the Truth, you didn't.

İf you try to accomplish something, you will suffer your entire life.

İf you believe something, that's wrong.

İf you think gaining/achieving bringing happiness or Truth that's completely opposite.

The path is losing anything and everything.

İncluding these sentences.

James, the OP is the truth. Thanks. 

[Mellowmarsh]

On 15/12/2025 at 6:31 AM, James123 said:

When one's realize that his / her entire personality is based on these beliefs and experiences, one dissolves.

While I agree with that statement. I still can’t help but identify with my “character role”

Even as I am aware of the unreal nature of known character.
I still find myself flip-flopping from belief to clarity to belief. So I tend to integrate both awareness and the content, while at the same time, I’m knowing full well I am neither the awareness or the content. The illusion of I  is very convincing, but ultimately I can be seen through to the point I dissolves into the wordless. 

Ultimately, looking , I cannot find the “character” in actual direct experience, because it’s just a belief, it has no permanent reality.

 

Edited 10 hours ago by Mellowmarsh

[James123]

3 hours ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Is it wise or not wise to make the claim “I am not wise” ? 

 

If claiming based on identification, both is unnecessary. Yet, if just talking, both is just words and sentences.

1 hour ago, Mellowmarsh said:

While I agree with that statement. I still can’t help but identify with my “character role”

Even as I am aware of the unreal nature of known character.
I still find myself flip-flopping from belief to clarity to belief. So I tend to integrate both awareness and the content, while at the same time, I’m knowing full well I am neither the awareness or the content. The illusion of I  is very convincing, but ultimately I can be seen through to the point I dissolves into the wordless. 

Ultimately, looking , I cannot find the “character” in actual direct experience, because it’s just a belief, it has no permanent reality.

 

Just watch the one, who says or attached the these sentences as identification.

Even if you do for a second, mind will stop inevatibly. 

But, when you say oh I get it. That's mind too 😊 

Then step back watch or be witness of that too 😊 

Edited 9 hours ago by James123

[Mellowmarsh]

41 minutes ago, James123 said:

If claiming based on identification, both is unnecessary. Yet, if just talking, both is just words and sentences.

Just watch the one, who says or attached the these sentences as identification.

Even if you do for a second, mind will stop inevatibly. 

But, when you say oh I get it. That's mind too 😊 

Then step back watch or be witness of that too 😊 

Nicely said. It’s always a pleasure to talk to you. 

[Joseph Maynor]

49 minutes ago, James123 said:

If claiming based on identification, both is unnecessary. Yet, if just talking, both is just words and sentences.

Just watch the one, who says or attached the these sentences as identification.

Even if you do for a second, mind will stop inevatibly. 

But, when you say oh I get it. That's mind too 😊 

Then step back watch or be witness of that too 😊 

But what happens here when you're the you that you're referencing?

[Mellowmarsh]

Joseph if you can see a you in the thought or the word, then you can see a no you by same method.

[Joseph Maynor]

1 minute ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Joseph if you can see a you in the thought or the word, then you can see a no you by same method.

The issue of "you" is nuanced in my opinion.  But yes, I agree with you too.  

[Mellowmarsh]

1 minute ago, Joseph Maynor said:

The issue of "you" is nuanced in my opinion.  But yes, I agree with you too.  

Nuance could be interpreted as many images of what is fundamentally imageless. What is the image of the imageless.

[Mellowmarsh]

8 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

The issue of "you" is nuanced in my opinion.  But yes, I agree with you too.  

It’s delightful to speak with you Joseph.

[James123]

1 hour ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Nicely said. It’s always a pleasure to talk to you. 

Anytime brother.

1 hour ago, Joseph Maynor said:

But what happens here when you're the you that you're referencing?

Actually not. Just step back. Be witness, till mind become alone itself and talks without any ownership. 

Maybe, then it become quite. 😊 

[VeganAwake]

This topic/conversation reminded me of this interview 🤔

 

[Joseph Maynor]

@VeganAwake Here's another example.  Not my cup of tea but I actually watched this.