TruthFreedom

Leo.

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Maybe you are right. Maybe this existence right here and now is all there is. I can't escape it if I'm honest. But if I use my logical mind then I can imagine that there are other people out there. Just because it is imaginary, does this mean that they do not exist? Yes, in a way it is comforting to think that nobody else exists. But if one uses one's mind, one can surmise that other people DO exist. Yes, again, I know it is imaginary. Even YOU are imaginary. But if I use my imagination very deeply then I can imagine that there are 8 billion others with their own imaginations too. And why not use my logical mind to give that idea some credence? 

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4 hours ago, TruthFreedom said:

Yes, again, I know it is imaginary. 

Imagination is a common term used in this work- very easy to misinterpret.

The name of the game is becoming conscious of how the mind constructs reality. The process of construction is what is referred to as “imagination”.

Becoming conscious of this process is no easy feat as it requires to some degree going beyond Leo and Actualized teachings. Only you can validate it — possible but daunting.

When you do, you’ll get it directly, and you won’t need validation from anyone on this forum

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@TruthFreedom The logical mind can’t grasp what you are doing. It’s just spinner fantasies. 


 "Unburdened and Becoming" - Bon Iver

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You do not need to imagine other people. We ARE the world!


Joy

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On 30/11/2025 at 11:31 PM, TruthFreedom said:

Maybe this existence right here and now is all there.

@Carl-Richard only his room exists .


 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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10 minutes ago, Someone here said:

@Carl-Richard only his room exists .

I cba.

 

@TruthFreedom

Only your logical mind can conclude something exists and something doesn't exist. So you're already using your logical mind, so yes, why not give that other idea credence? I think you would find it's more logical, or rather more reasonable (given various reasonable epistemic assumptions; empirical adequacy, explanatory power, logical consistency, coherence, conceptual parsimony).

Edited by Carl-Richard

Intrinsic joy = being x meaning ²

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@TruthFreedom

Let's see, as @Carl-Richard  says, all these ideas of solipsism, that there's nothing outside your experience, that you're God creating reality, are logical constructs. So, if you make logical constructs, why do you make the ones that seem, let's say, less logical? To feel special, different, cool? Yes, okay, you can tell me you awakened to that fact by taking drugs, but that's nothing to me because once, while taking drugs, I awakened to the fact that all the women in a club wanted sex with me. It was a total awakening, undeniable. But then, well, it needed some qualification. 

So maybe to make logical deductions it's better to use logic than drugs. 

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