Is Sadguru's Inner Engineering Course worth it?

[Carl-Richard]

9 minutes ago, TheSelf said:

@Leo Gura Sadhguru is too cautious regarding giving legit advanced practices, this is not a behavior of ancient gurus, some could say cause of larger crowd of disciples... but what do you think the actual reason could be?

You know plain old meditation is associated with psychosis?

[TheSelf]

1 minute ago, Carl-Richard said:

You know plain old meditation is associated with psychosis?

Mind elaborate what you're talking about?

[TheSelf]

Yogananda brought Kriya Yoga to the west, that was the wish of Babaji, the yogi behind resurrection of these ancient teachings.

If they had the same spirit as Sadhguru we wouldn't have access to these gold stuff we do now.

That's my only critic of Sadhguru.

Edited 11 hours ago by TheSelf

[Leo Gura]

15 minutes ago, TheSelf said:

@Leo Gura Sadhguru is too cautious regarding giving legit advanced practices, this is not a behavior of ancient gurus, some could say cause of larger crowd of disciples... but what do you think the actual reason could be?

His teachings are designed to be very normie-friendly and mainstream. This requires watering everything down for fools.

He says that Kriya yoga is dangerous so he will not give it away casually so people don't hurt themselves.

[Carl-Richard]

5 minutes ago, TheSelf said:

Mind elaborate what you're talking about?

It's very straightforward what I said, you can Google it. Spiritual practices are not psychologically innocuous. There are good reasons for being cautious around administering them.

Edited 11 hours ago by Carl-Richard

[OBEler]

22 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Don't get your panties twisted.

I didn't miss anything.

You’re as stubborn about not taking the shambhavi mahamudra course as Peter Ralston is about finally smoking some 5-Meo.

[TheSelf]

1 minute ago, Carl-Richard said:

It's very straightforward what I said, you can Google it. Spiritual practices are not psychologically innocuous. There are good reasons for being cautious around administering them.

I know...

But that could be the case with extreme potent practices like Kundalini yoga, but most of the practices are quite safe IMO.

Like you sit and watch your breath and you may go crazy? 

[Leo Gura]

7 minutes ago, OBEler said:

You’re as stubborn about not taking the shambhavi mahamudra course as Peter Ralston is about finally smoking some 5-Meo.

I took the fucking course!

[TheSelf]

All I'm saying is that mankind requires to go way deeper into spirituality. And eventually unification of consciousness.

And this requires ancient knowledges to not be so restricted to public.

[TheSelf]

13 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

He says that Kriya yoga is dangerous so he will not give it away casually so people don't hurt themselves.

And some people thought otherwise and shared it in books and I took the knowledge and worked on myself and now have totally different experience of life.

People are benefiting from such knowledges being shared in books.

[Leo Gura]

3 minutes ago, TheSelf said:

And some people thought otherwise and shared it in books and I took the knowledge and worked on myself and now have totally different experience of life.

People are benefiting from such knowledges being shared in books.

You are one ass dude.

Sadhguru is selling yoga to soccer moms.

[Salvijus]

29 minutes ago, TheSelf said:

People are benefiting from such knowledges being shared in books.

I think sadhguru's reply would be that what he has to share doesn't fit into a book. And I would probably agree with that. When it comes to Isha's system, there's an element of inviting a new intelligence into your life that you can't get through normal techniques. That new intelligence shifts everything about you, what you eat, how you think, people you hang out with, how you dress, your direction in life etc. It's not the practice he is offering that you can do and improve your life. He's offering you a completely new life. And it's not for everyone and sadhguru knows it, that's why he puts filters around it, so that only those who are meant to part of this movement would be there. At advanced programs they will even interview you to really make sure you belong there before they allow you to attend. They are very selective over who they initiate. 

That would be my take on it. 

Edited 10 hours ago by Salvijus

[TheSelf]

8 minutes ago, Salvijus said:

I think sadhguru's reply would be that what he has to share doesn't fit into a book. And I would probably agree with that. When it comes to Isha's system, there's an element of inviting a new intelligence into your life that you can't get through normal techniques. That new intelligence shifts everything about you, what you eat, how you think, people you hang out with, how you dress, your direction in life etc. It's not the practice he is offering that you can do and improve your life. He's offering you a completely new life. And it's not for everyone and sadhguru knows it, that's why he puts filters around it, so that only those who are meant to part of this movement would be there. At advanced programs they will even interview you to really make sure you belong before they allow you to attend the program. 

That would be my take on it. 

Interesting 🤔

But if you're talking about accessing your higher consciousness beyond the mind it could be the fruit of other systems or traditions too.

Like Lahiri Mahasaya's Kriya Yoga.

You are not telling me that this is unique about Sadhguru's system are you?

And did you experience it or just heard about it?

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[OBEler]

27 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I took the fucking course!

Ah sorry I thought you did any live course, not the one about shambhavi mahamudra. Ok then it's legit to build an opinion.

[Salvijus]

11 minutes ago, TheSelf said:

Interesting 🤔

But if you're talking about accessing your higher consciousness beyond the mind it could be the fruit of other systems or traditions too.

Like Lahiri Mahasaya's Kriya Yoga.

You are not telling me that this is unique about Sadhguru are you?

Higher conciousness is the fruit of many practices, yes. But there is a unique element with Isha where the grace of a Guru comes alive in your life. And the practice is there to maintain the connection with that grace. And that grace is cleaning your house from within and transforming you. That's why a simple practice can have way bigger results than you'd normally expect. But to have that access and relationship with that grace one needs to participate in a program. His most advanced programs are more like a wedding than a teaching of instructions really. It's a very different way of growing spiritually that is not suitable for everyone. It fits only specific type of people. Others are best if they are filtered out. 

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A did you experience it or just heard about it?

I know from experience

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[Carl-Richard]

39 minutes ago, TheSelf said:

Like you sit and watch your breath and you may go crazy? 

Yes.

[TheSelf]

8 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

Yes.

Use of psychedelic are being heavily advertised in this forum, that could within moments shoot you into infinity beyond any infinite experiences you'v ever had.

Come on bro.

A simple Zen meditation wont fuck with you at all.

 

Edited 10 hours ago by TheSelf

[ryoko]

42 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I took the fucking course!

Naadivibajhan, patangasana, sukha kriya, and the other stuffs which form Shambhavi Mahamudra Kriya?

[ryoko]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

He says that Kriya yoga is dangerous so he will not give it away casually so people don't hurt themselves.

He's just gatekeeping. This stuff works through intent of the one initiating you, to a great extent. He doesn't want anyone becoming independent practicioners. His volunteers have the same attitude. 

Perhaps it's trauma, he claims his past life his guru treated him like an untouchable and only interacted with a stick, instead of using hands. And his own claim that he's just a slave to Shiva. These themes just keep recurring. 

You get bliss by sucking Shambhavi tits. That's the level of sophistication this kriya has. It's literally borrowed bliss. And it comes with a heavy cost; your freedom. 

Edited 10 hours ago by ryoko

[Carl-Richard]

21 minutes ago, TheSelf said:

Use of psychedelic are being heavily advertised in this forum, that could within moments shoot you into infinity beyond any infinite experiences you'v ever had.

Yes, it's insane.

 

21 minutes ago, TheSelf said:

Come on bro.

A simple Zen meditation wont fuck with you at all.

You are wrong unless you want to quantify that statement.