My Theory on Death

[Joshe]

On 12/21/2025 at 8:43 AM, Ramasta9 said:

Here is a fun question: What happens when you die in a dream? 

Need not complicate it further  

 

Yes, it’s a transition. You always wake up into a story.

I once had a dream where I was being chased and I jumped off a cliff into water, but it was so high there was no way I was going to survive, so instead of landing in water, I landed in pure blackness. While I was there, I thought there was no way out but then I realized the dream wasn’t over if I didn’t want it to be. So I turned the emptiness into water and rose out of it. 

“What was it like before I was born?” and “What will it be like when I die?” are the same question. 

Also, if you have experience with anesthesia, that’s helpful. 

Edited Friday at 12:20 AM by Joshe

[Rishabh R]

I think that death is the end of subjective experience. I remember Leo saying in one of his old video- Nothing will remain even black and white will be gone.

But I could be wrong. And I am open to the possibility of altering my view .

[Thought Art]

@Rishabh R I don’t think he ever said that. Especially not in his video on death.

[Joshe]

Death will be exactly like your experience before birth. There was not even a perceiver to perceive nothingness. 

At first glance, this can seem scary. Until you realize that if nothing can be known on either side, the only thing that can be known is in-between. So the in-between is all that can be known - all that can exist.

In other words, you must exist, because it's impossible to know non-existence. 

[Franz_]

@Joshe  by "in between" you mean that after death there wont even be a "lobby" or smth to start the next experience u are just simply in it like in this one? but then when are you gonna choose which experience u want?

[Joshe]

2 hours ago, Franz_ said:

@Joshe  by "in between" you mean that after death there wont even be a "lobby" or smth to start the next experience u are just simply in it like in this one? but then when are you gonna choose which experience u want?

I have no reason to believe there's a lobby or a chooser. I don't think death is a state you'll ever be in. All I've ever known is consciousness, so I suspect experience just continues, though not through any soul progression or anything like that. 

[Rodrigo Costa]

@Joshe

On 26/12/2025 at 10:54 PM, Joshe said:

Death will be exactly like your experience before birth. There was not even a perceiver to perceive nothingness. 

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So, if there isn't a perceiver or even a feeling, then what you are describing is absolute non-existence.  However, absolute non-existence does not exist.  Therefore, death as absolute non-existence does not exist. 

Edited 18 hours ago by Rodrigo Costa

[cetus]

35 minutes ago, Rodrigo Costa said:

However, absolute non-existence does not exist.  Therefore, death as absolute non-existence does not exist. 

Deep sleep is the same as death. No experience. No one to have an experience. It is beyond existence and non-existence. The absence of absence.

[Shawn Philips]

56 minutes ago, cetus said:

Deep sleep is the same as death. No experience. No one to have an experience. It is beyond existence and non-existence. The absence of absence.

The consciousness is conscious of nothingness, but saying that there's no one to have an experience is very bold. You cannot know that.

[Rodrigo Costa]

1 hour ago, cetus said:

Deep sleep is the same as death. No experience. No one to have an experience. It is beyond existence and non-existence. The absence of absence.

If you define deep sleep as such, then it does not exist as a first person experience. And the same reasoning may be applied to death.

[cetus]

3 hours ago, Rodrigo Costa said:

If you define deep sleep as such, then it does not exist as a first person experience. And the same reasoning may be applied to death.

You got it.

[Oppositionless]

Deep sleep is so weird to me. If everything is God / consciousness I'm not sure how deep sleep or anasthesia could even exist, so I thought what if there's really just an unbroken chain of experience from falling asleep to waking up .
 

Death could be the same, although I don't exactly see why it should necessarily be anything like sleep, sleep occurs while the brain is still active. Comparing death to sleep is natural but not really grounded in anything but assumption.