Is Julien Blanc Teir II?

[enchanted]

He makes alot of the same points as Leo does and I think talks about self help in a Tier II way. Here's is some great examples:

 

 

[Recursoinominado]

Nah, he has to go through green first. 

[enchanted]

On 25/10/2025 at 8:27 PM, Recursoinominado said:

Nah, he has to go through green first. 

What makes you think that he hasn't?

[Mada_]

43 minutes ago, enchanted said:

What makes you think that he hasn't?

He teaches pickup 

[Recursoinominado]

1 hour ago, enchanted said:

What makes you think that he hasn't?

I followed him closely for many years. He used to be Red/Orange. 

Nowadays, he is mostly orange, which is an improvement. He is performative green; he pretends to be green; he pretends to be what orange thinks is healthy green. 

It is like corporate orange disguising itself as green to make more money. 

Anyone who is truly at green/yellow would be disgusted with RSD, his peers, pickup, his industry, and would leave to do his own thing, even if it means earning less money. He is maxing out money/status/fame, so he is Orange. 

Edited October 27 by Recursoinominado

[Roots]

He's picked up some things from tier 2 people and their teachings and passes it on but that doesn't make him tier 2.

There's a lot of lessons he needs to learn especially in green to reach tier 2, which is going to be a real challenge for him.

[Miguel1]

I don’t see it. What exactly makes you think this?

[ZeldaStar]

9 hours ago, Mada_ said:

He teaches pickup 

Leo teaches pickup too, this seems irrelevant 

Julien blanc hasn't taught pickup in a decade if I recall correctly 

Edited October 27 by ZeldaStar

[Recursoinominado]

12 minutes ago, ZeldaStar said:

Leo teaches pickup too, this seems irrelevant 

Julien blanc hasn't taught pickup in a decade if I recall correctly 

I can teach you to make money by working on your life purpose and serving people with your gifts, or scamming people and stealing their money, vastly different levels of consciousness. 

[Mada_]

48 minutes ago, ZeldaStar said:

Leo teaches pickup too, this seems irrelevant 

Julien blanc hasn't taught pickup in a decade if I recall correctly 

Julian Blanc has helped me more or less. I would say Owen Cook really helped me. I’m not knocking him I just don’t think he’s a tier II thinker.
Try reading Critical Path by R.Buckminster Fuller if you haven’t already, it reads starkly different to accessible self-help. Stage Yellow is a different ballgame. Or read a cutting edge academic paper, these people simply have more integrated minds, they’re integrating more perspectives than he is.

I’m not saying he’s not smart and you shouldn’t listen to him. 
 

[Carl-Richard]

5 hours ago, Roots said:

He's picked up some things from tier 2 people and their teachings and passes it on but that doesn't make him tier 2.

Yet it makes everybody on the forum Tier 2 😂

[Mada_]

7 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

Yet it makes everybody on the forum Tier 2 😂

lol very good call, myself included haha 

[AION]

There is no systems thinking in Julien's work.

In the past his teaching was very masculine, to the point and result based.

Nowadays it is very feminine, he just rambles for half a hour without saying anything. I would say he is giving SD orange-green vibes..

I have been to his free event couple of years ago and women were projecting their daddy issues onto him. It was kind of creepy. It gave me Osho vibes.

Edited October 28 by AION

[WonderSeeker]

On 10/26/2025 at 4:53 AM, enchanted said:

He makes alot of the same points as Leo does and I think talks about self help in a Tier II way. Here's is some great examples:

 

I've been following Julien's content deeply for 3 years.

I can tell you he's distanced himself from Owen quite a bit. He actually disagrees with him often (though not by name).

I had a friend go to a Julien event last year and he thanked Julien for his pickup stuff from 2012. Julien said "Glad it helped" and walked away. He has moved on from the punk he was. 

But MOST IMPORTANTLY, I went through Julien's 8-week Transformation Mastery (TM) program recently. It's somatic release combined with weekly calls to ask questions about trauma and the releases. I got to talk to him live on Zoom calls every week. I've talked to lots of people at SMC (formerly RSD). And by far, in terms of overall awareness, Julien is the most advanced. Owen is a loud-mouth, but also a genius in his own right (but not necessarily conscious!)

What I like about Julien is he's actually done the hard work of smoothing himself out in a such a way that I'd call him high green, MAYBE Tier II. He openly allows blue, orange, and green topics to be discussed on his calls. He gives advice from many different perspectives. He also uses a scale of emotional development based off of David Hawkin's work (see attached photo).

It works similar to a developmental psychology model where you go from a lower vibrational, competitive, destructive state, to more embracing, loving, conscious state. In his own work Julien cites perspectives from people of all age ranges. He is genuine on the calls and I sense no bullshit or games with him whatsoever.

Whereas in the more pickup side of SMC, I've met Owen in person several times and his other coaches too. They are more salesy, sleezy, and it feels like there's some BS hiding underneath them. They weren't as lucky as Julien was to get gut-punched into green (and possibly Tier II).

One of the only things that is holding him back from Tier II, is he hasn't gone into military-grade deep spiritual territory. Otherwise it does appear like he's building out conscious systems, with TM as the foundation (happiness), Purpose Process (wealth), and High-Vibe Communication (relationships). He doesn't have much to say about health, education, spirituality, or psychedelics though.

He doesn't cover every base but he goes really deep with what he does know and is therefore a pretty healthy green/orange (maybe some Tier II) nonetheless.

My 2 cents.

Edited Wednesday at 01:09 PM by WonderSeeker