This world is a trap

[Princess Arabia]

15 minutes ago, Dodo said:

Even the guy you're agreeing

I quoted a specific part and responded to that. Doesn't mean he's a guy I'm agreeing with on everything, that's your assumption. I'm also through with going back and forth with you, that can get tiring and useless too. Doesn't matter either way, what is, is.

[Dodo]

7 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

I quoted a specific part and responded to that. Doesn't mean he's a guy I'm agreeing with on everything, that's your assumption. I'm also through with going back and forth with you, that can get tiring and useless too. Doesn't matter either way, what is, is.

Yes you quote the part which praises you as right and ignore the part which shows you as wrong. Classic feeding of the ego. 

If you will talk absolute truth, you cant be running away like that when challenged. Anyway, enjoy your circlejerk/echo chamber 

14 minutes ago, vibv said:

Why is it that every thread escalates into site-long discussions who has the more accurate description of consciousness? Must be the nature of this place, huh?

@Dodo No escape is one thing. I talk about unforeseen consequences. We're riding this place like an accelerating rollercoaster into..into what?

Im not on about description, Princess was denying the reality of consciousness and I was in discussion with her about the difference between concepts (aka dream/illusion) and something which is beyond the dream, namely consciousness.  To me she is God denying. 

This leads to the next, I dont think its for any one single mind to know where the rollercoaster is going. What we can do is to be here as the knowing and to allow experience to be - its already happening. Noticing the knowing takes the sting out of bad situations, because your identification has shifted. 

Lets also mention that one ant cant know where the colony is headed, thats on whole other level. 

[vibv]

18 minutes ago, Dodo said:

Lets also mention that one ant cant know where the colony is headed, thats on whole other level. 

You can see it if you just open your eyes. We're on a path into more greed, addiction and overproduction while so many people still hunger. What have we created? Can't we just finally face it?

At least we can steer into some other direction. Is this where we want to be and is this the road we want to continue going down?

Where's our humanity?

Edited 11 hours ago by vibv

[Dodo]

8 minutes ago, vibv said:

You can see it if you just open your eyes. We're on a path into more greed, addiction and overproduction while so many people still hunger. What have we created? Can't we just finally face it?

At least we can steer into some other direction. Is this where we want to be and is this the road we want to continue going down?

Where's our humanity?

i believe this stems from the belief in materialism, as in, that matter is the building block of reality. People enmass ignore consciousness,  all I can do is remind people consciousness is all that is real.

The stories we tell are secondary, and we cant change some things even if we wanted to. What we can do is surrender and accept what is, and act from there. 

Im sure what you point out is true to some extent but there is also other stories happening which are not that. There are many humble and/or amazing people out there and groups of people doing good in the world also. 

[vibv]

@Dodo Let's take some personal responsibility by questioning our very own style of life. 

• Do we really need to eat stuff with so much sugar in it, which is addictive?
• Can we reduce waste by buying products that use less of it?
• Can I use less ressources like water, food and energy?
• etc.

I think it makes a real difference.

There may come a time when this will be very relevant. I see it as preparation.

Edited 10 hours ago by vibv