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Practical Non-Violent Tactical Resistance Against the Rise of Fascism

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1 hour ago, DocWatts said:
22 minutes ago, DocWatts said:

I suspect that folks pooh-poohing what's likely to be the largest single day of protest in American history have spent very little time researching how authoritarian governments are actually topple

Demonstration like No Kings are important because they draw people into more active forms of resistance, push back against the atmosphere of fear and inevitability that the autocrat is trying to instill in the public, and make it abundantly clear that the regime is weak and unpopular.

Nobody Pooh-pooh'ed the protest. It's an actively organised protest, it doesn't go far enough, but its not bad.

I don't think it'll be that effective personally, just based on years of past experience. But then we are getting to a tipping point. Ice arrested a white policeman the other day, and as you say its a large protest.
 


The problem with public protests against a regime in a democracy is that, if it's just aimed at the regime, unless it's on election day or near it and getting good coverage, it doesn't swing the balance. It can influence local authorities, but the federal authorities are the ones out of control. Maybe that will be enough, or it will indeed be big enough, if the Trump regime keeps up with their stupidity. Few of them are particularly clever or forward-thinking; they are mostly reactive, though the designers of their fascist movement have more intelligence: Project 2024 etc.

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Demonstration like No Kings are important because they draw people into more active forms of resistance, push back against the atmosphere of fear and inevitability that the autocrat is trying to instill in the public, and make it abundantly clear that the regime is weak and unpopular.

Fair point here. I have a very fatalist outlook to politics because its been very easy to predict what would happen for many years, and none of it was very good :)

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11 hours ago, Deziree said:

I think the problem will take care of itself when authoritarianism will go out of hand and there will be an automatic push back. This happens with almost every movement that runs into it's own excesses.

That's true too. But it's helpful to do some practical organizing to be united to push back in numbers for when they try to push something. 


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8 hours ago, BlueOak said:

1, Passive resistance changes nothing. It got the country where it is. Active resistance will.
Random acts of violence in the spur of the moment will do nothing.

2, You can choose what method of active resistance it is, that's the only choice. Violence leads to more violence, that is true. Whatever is picked tends to build on itself.

3, When she strays into fantasy, she needs to give it a rest. I'd like to know who on the actual left has enough power to 'despair' a chipmunk, let alone a country. It's certainly not Bill three doors down from her, who sometimes watches the TV and most of the time can't be bothered.

4, Critically, she offers no practical solutions, just guidelines. So nothing is really gained here but a generalised message.
But its appreciated she is asking for ideas from her viewers, that's a good start.

This is just one of her videos. She posts several a day... many with practical solutions.

This one was just a response to a comment where the person was under the impression that violent resistance is better than non-violent resistance and she was debunking that.

But she shares on her videos more generally how to get organized and engaged in active resistance... just not on this specific video.

I wanted to share it anyway because it's a useful message.


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The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The second best time is right now. 

The battle is lost. The single best thing to do to combat authoritarianism and fascism is nation wide world class education from history to political science to self development to everything Actualized.org stands for such as understanding bias, self deception, ego development etc... But as I said, this should have started 20 years ago. Now we reap what this palaeolithic educational system has sow. Basically it has sown nothing, the current educational system is downright from the stone ages. 

You can't fight authoritarianism if the authoritarian propaganda can hijack almost all the minds in the country. Who are you gonna fight it with? There is no cure for lack of education.

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We need a centralized, charismatic leadership to lead the entire No Kings protests. Otherwise, what will we really get out of any of it?

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2 minutes ago, Hardkill said:

We need a centralized, charismatic leadership to lead the entire No Kings protests. Otherwise, what will we really get out of any of it?

That's the wrong way to think about the purpose of this protest... and protests in general.

First off, it shows strength in numbers and that people aren't just going to stand down and allow the Trump administration to do what it wants.

Secondly, the Trump administration is cracking down on the right to protest. You see, most authoritarian regimes don't need to take freedoms by force. The people willingly modify their behavior before they're forced to because they get intimidated by the authoritarian regime. What Trump hopes for is to crack down on some protesters so that people get afraid and stop protesting. So, it's important to use the right to protest... or we will certainly lose it.

Third, it's a great networking event for grassroots political organization to get more average people pushing back in small ways.


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5 hours ago, Daniel Balan said:

The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The second best time is right now. 

The battle is lost. The single best thing to do to combat authoritarianism and fascism is nation wide world class education from history to political science to self development to everything Actualized.org stands for such as understanding bias, self deception, ego development etc... But as I said, this should have started 20 years ago. Now we reap what this palaeolithic educational system has sow. Basically it has sown nothing, the current educational system is downright from the stone ages. 

You can't fight authoritarianism if the authoritarian propaganda can hijack almost all the minds in the country. Who are you gonna fight it with? There is no cure for lack of education.

This is just doomerism, and it's not helpful and even counterproductive.

The Trump administration is weak and foolish... and will certainly eventually destroy itself. The administration's approval is already VERY VERY low among the populace. It's under the water on all metrics... including the economy and immigration, which are usually the strongest metrics for Republicans.

Also, ignorance helps the spread of Fascism.... but it doesn't cause it. Facism happens when conditions are stressful and a demagogue influences the populace in a way that causes people to collectively scapegoat certain groups of outsiders, and transfer all of their frustrations about life onto the group of outsiders.

And it's not just ignorant people who are susceptible to this... though ignorance certainly helps this process.

It comes from deeper psychological vulnerabilities and can happen to the educated and non-educated alike. In fact, educated people who have a higher intellect are more able to skillfully do mental gymnastics to rationally justify foolish Fascistic things when there is a deeper emotional motivation to adopt Fascist viewpoints.


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We need a king for our no kings protest!!!

 

/s

 

Stay away from cults, you're very susceptible.....

 

 

Democracy is the next step before anarchy, the opposite direction of a charismatic leader. WE all are the leaders.

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49 minutes ago, Emerald said:

That's the wrong way to think about the purpose of this protest... and protests in general.

First off, it shows strength in numbers and that people aren't just going to stand down and allow the Trump administration to do what it wants.

Secondly, the Trump administration is cracking down on the right to protest. You see, most authoritarian regimes don't need to take freedoms by force. The people willingly modify their behavior before they're forced to because they get intimidated by the authoritarian regime. What Trump hopes for is to crack down on some protesters so that people get afraid and stop protesting. So, it's important to use the right to protest... or we will certainly lose it.

Third, it's a great networking event for grassroots political organization to get more average people pushing back in small ways.

I mean, I suppose it's a good start, but what exactly are the people protesting going to be asking for?

There is no unified or cohesive plan and no message discipline for sharpening any serious demands.

What concrete demands do they want from the government and from the political parties? 

Do they want these ICE raids to go away for good? Are they wanting free and fair elections, including the elimination of nationwide gerrymandering for future elections? Do they want Trump to stop these stupid fucking tariffs and pressure him to help fix the people's financial situation like he promised he would?

We desperately need an MLK or Obama-like figure to step up and give some kind of incredibly powerful speeches that will truly grab the people's attention and move them towards getting the support we need to get some kind of major policy win from the government.

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4 hours ago, Emerald said:

This is just doomerism, and it's not helpful and even counterproductive.

The Trump administration is weak and foolish... and will certainly eventually destroy itself. The administration's approval is already VERY VERY low among the populace. It's under the water on all metrics... including the economy and immigration, which are usually the strongest metrics for Republicans.

Also, ignorance helps the spread of Fascism.... but it doesn't cause it. Facism happens when conditions are stressful and a demagogue influences the populace in a way that causes people to collectively scapegoat certain groups of outsiders, and transfer all of their frustrations about life onto the group of outsiders.

And it's not just ignorant people who are susceptible to this... though ignorance certainly helps this process.

It comes from deeper psychological vulnerabilities and can happen to the educated and non-educated alike. In fact, educated people who have a higher intellect are more able to skillfully do mental gymnastics to rationally justify foolish Fascistic things when there is a deeper emotional motivation to adopt Fascist viewpoints.

If Trump vanished another like minded wanna be dictator would take his place. You guys said the same about Trump after he mismanaged covid and after 6 jan. Trump should have had 0 chances to get re-elected after the disaster in his first term. But it turns out that the citizenry wanted Trump so bad that he won even the popular vote by almost 2.5 million. 

I'm not saying that you shouldn't go protest. By all means do that, but I understand it is futile as long as he has the majority of the population behind him. Like it or not but 50% of Americans want the kind of politics that Trump is offering. And that is a fact. You don't get to be president for 2 terms is that isn't the case. 

If all the population would be extremely educated Trump would never poll over 30%. Some educated people sway conservative and would be also corrupt AF and would benefit greatly from Trumps politics. But the percentage would never be above 30%. 

Since the propaganda apparatus of MAGA is so vicious at swaying the majority of the minds in the USA in the Trump direction you guys stand little chance. You would need a propaganda apparatus that could sway minds towards liberal democracy values. But you can sway towards liberal democracy only if you are educated and atuned to history and political science. If you are John Mccoy from Mississippi you don't give 2 flying fucks about liberal democracy, you don't care about such a thing and you only want Trump to puch in the face some sissy liberal on live television. That is the state of the situation. 

Education is the only sword that can slay fascism. 

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54 minutes ago, Daniel Balan said:

If Trump vanished another like minded wanna be dictator would take his place. You guys said the same about Trump after he mismanaged covid and after 6 jan. Trump should have had 0 chances to get re-elected after the disaster in his first term. But it turns out that the citizenry wanted Trump so bad that he won even the popular vote by almost 2.5 million. 

I'm not saying that you shouldn't go protest. By all means do that, but I understand it is futile as long as he has the majority of the population behind him. Like it or not but 50% of Americans want the kind of politics that Trump is offering. And that is a fact. You don't get to be president for 2 terms is that isn't the case. 

If all the population would be extremely educated Trump would never poll over 30%. Some educated people sway conservative and would be also corrupt AF and would benefit greatly from Trumps politics. But the percentage would never be above 30%. 

Since the propaganda apparatus of MAGA is so vicious at swaying the majority of the minds in the USA in the Trump direction you guys stand little chance. You would need a propaganda apparatus that could sway minds towards liberal democracy values. But you can sway towards liberal democracy only if you are educated and atuned to history and political science. If you are John Mccoy from Mississippi you don't give 2 flying fucks about liberal democracy, you don't care about such a thing and you only want Trump to puch in the face some sissy liberal on live television. That is the state of the situation. 

Education is the only sword that can slay fascism. 

Yeah, I've been feeling that way too.

It's hard to see how we get out of this dark place anytime soon.

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Cantonization and decentralization.


🏔 Spiral dynamics can be limited, or it can be unlimited if one's development is constantly reflected in its interpretation.

 

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4 hours ago, Daniel Balan said:

If Trump vanished another like minded wanna be dictator would take his place. You guys said the same about Trump after he mismanaged covid and after 6 jan. Trump should have had 0 chances to get re-elected after the disaster in his first term. But it turns out that the citizenry wanted Trump so bad that he won even the popular vote by almost 2.5 million. 

I'm not saying that you shouldn't go protest. By all means do that, but I understand it is futile as long as he has the majority of the population behind him. Like it or not but 50% of Americans want the kind of politics that Trump is offering. And that is a fact. You don't get to be president for 2 terms is that isn't the case. 

If all the population would be extremely educated Trump would never poll over 30%. Some educated people sway conservative and would be also corrupt AF and would benefit greatly from Trumps politics. But the percentage would never be above 30%. 

Since the propaganda apparatus of MAGA is so vicious at swaying the majority of the minds in the USA in the Trump direction you guys stand little chance. You would need a propaganda apparatus that could sway minds towards liberal democracy values. But you can sway towards liberal democracy only if you are educated and atuned to history and political science. If you are John Mccoy from Mississippi you don't give 2 flying fucks about liberal democracy, you don't care about such a thing and you only want Trump to puch in the face some sissy liberal on live television. That is the state of the situation. 

Education is the only sword that can slay fascism. 

He's never had 50% support.

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Protests are psycho-social. People and society are not rational, they're emotional, that's what protests target. This is your "cHaRiSmAtIc lEaDEr" equivalent, but much stronger.

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32 minutes ago, Elliott said:

He's never had 50% support.

Bro he litteraly got almost 78 milion votes. Only Biden got more when he got 81 milion. 

If being the second in the all time votes in all elections doesn't mean you got more than half the country supporting you, I don't know what else is considered having a majority. 

 


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2 hours ago, Daniel Balan said:

Bro he litteraly got almost 78 milion votes. Only Biden got more when he got 81 milion. 

If being the second in the all time votes in all elections doesn't mean you got more than half the country supporting you, I don't know what else is considered having a majority. 

 

That's not even remotely true.

Less than a third of American adults voted for the wanna-be dictator.

More Americans stayed home than voted for Trump. If 'didn't vote' was a candidate, it would have won the election handily. It would be more true to say that apathy won the election.

Even among people who did bother to vote, Trump won a plurality rather than a majority.

9 months into his presidency, less than 40% of the country approves of the job he's doing - this is historically low when you consider the first year is typically the honeymoon period where presidents enjoy the highest approval ratings of their entire term.

A larger percentage of Americans support having him impeached (52%) than approve of Trump 2.0 (< %40).

He's underwater on every single issue, including the economy and immigration. An overwhelming majority of the country, including a majority of MAGA Republicans, want the Epstein files released.

Stop spreading propaganda.

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35 minutes ago, DocWatts said:

That's not even remotely true.

Less than a third of American adults voted for the wanna-be dictator.

More Americans stayed home than voted for Trump. If 'didn't vote' was a candidate, it would have won the election handily. It would be more true to say that apathy won the election.

Even among people who did bother to vote, Trump won a plurality rather than a majority.

9 months into his presidency, less than 40% of the country approves of the job he's doing - this is historically low when you consider the first year is typically the honeymoon period where presidents enjoy the highest approval ratings of their entire term.

A larger percentage of Americans support having him impeached (52%) than approve of Trump 2.0 (< %40).

He's underwater on every single issue, including the economy and immigration. An overwhelming majority of the country, including a majority of MAGA Republicans, want the Epstein files released.

Stop spreading propaganda.

Bruv you are spreading liberal propaganda. I just told you the facts. He got almost 78 milion votes. Historically this ranks number 2 only behind Biden in 2020 with 81 million votes. 

If this is propaganda to you then try cleaning the lenses from which you see the world. 


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4 hours ago, Daniel Balan said:

Bro he litteraly got almost 78 milion votes. Only Biden got more when he got 81 milion. 

If being the second in the all time votes in all elections doesn't mean you got more than half the country supporting you, I don't know what else is considered having a majority. 

 

Bruh, u.s. population is 340 million, move goalposts much. You said he has majority support, he'snever broken 50% in polls of voters even. And he wasn't even close to a high margin in the popular vote, one of the narrowest elections in modern history.

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