Should everyone go vegan?

[Bashar]

So I've always thought eating eating meat is ok, as no one is forced into an incarnation. It's always a choice. And some animals may choose a shorter life and they know what they're getting into. But.. the industry is basically slavery and has to change, and switching to plants is literally a step forward in human evolution. It's healthier too. Humans are naturally herbivorous. 

The real solution imo is putting pressure on government to reform farming. And transition animals into a more natural lifestyle with natural evolution and predators. But quitting meat is good even beyond pressuring the industry.

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[cetus]

Excerpt from another post:  3 hours ago, cetus said:

@Jowblob  I should clean up my diet and add more fresh vegetables. And you reminded me, @Leo Gura does have a video or two on healthy veggie. recipes.  I'll have to look into the sattvic diet- thanks. And while we're on the subject, I also read somewhere that adding a spice called Za'atar (high in antioxidants) to your diet is good to help fight cancer.  Thanks again! Great advice!

@Jowblob said: The diet should be completely clean and sattvic, you can use carrot/zucchini/pumpkin for many recipes. What food actually does when its not completely clean (dead food) , its grounding you to material plane and its energies and you might experience it as heaviness/pain. The paradox is, you cannot eat everything as you please anymore until you become enlightened. I have experienced the full energetic astral body during deep sleep and its nervous system for a short time, the "normal" human body has to work its way up towards that so thats why all these things are necessary to become clean and one with god again. As much as i want myself to eat meat and many other things, i cannot do it either anymore as i will experience "the heaviness" feeling as extreme pain not out of this world.

[cetus]

I knew a guy back in the day who took the Transcendental Meditation course, and he wouldn't touch meat of any kind. He believed the trauma of slaughtering the animal released all kinds of negative energy into the meat. 

[cetus]

UnbornTao said: 

Green cruciferous veggies - the most disgusting ones you can find. Those are the healthiest. 

[cetus]

Hi @Bashar  Hope you don't mind me moving this discussion here where it is more on topic. Thanks!

Just watched your video's. Good stuff! My daughter and her husband are firm believers in eating mostly veggies and some fish. Both of my grandchildren are growing healthy and wise/smart. I'll be sure to share your vids with them.

Edited yesterday at 05:01 PM by cetus

[Someone here]

It's not good for men. I'm not saying it's impossible to build muscle without eating animals because anyone can debunk this claim by linking some YT channel hosted by a vegan bodybuilder and how he is buffed as fuck . But without meat you really miss out on so much nutrients which just cannot be replaced with plants regardless of quantity or quality . Essential amino acids exists in meat and eggs and cannot be replaced by vegan protein. I've experimented with different diets. I tried vegan..tried carnivore ..tried "eating whatever the heck I find in the fridge "..etc ...and I shit you not ..vegan is the worst .you will feel like a flimsy piece of shit . 

[Schizophonia]

Human biology and microbiota evolved around hunting and more recently starches.

If you indulge your true nature, you'll crave bread, animal fat/butter, and possibly bread, rice, etc.
Most dishes are a combination of well-cooked meat and starches; if there are vegetables or fruits, they are well-cooked and/or bred/hybridized to be more palatable and digestible for humans.

Veganism is horrible if you need a lot of calories. You'd have to be very disconnected from your body to eat 2,500 kcal a day as a vegan, unless you're loaded and can live off "lentil shells with cashew cheese."
You have to see what some slightly orthorexic bodybuilders eat; it's a delirium.

 

[AION]

If somebody could have pulled off veganism it would be Steve Jobs. I'm reading his biography right now. And the amount of time, attention and money he put into it and he still failed at it. Ruined his health irreversibly and died a horrible death. On the short term you might think you are seeing benefits but on the long term the body doesn't tolerate disrespect.  

Edited 21 hours ago by AION

[Schizophonia]

6 minutes ago, AION said:

If somebody could have pulled of veganism it would be Steve Jobs. I'm reading his biography right now. And the amount of time, attention and money he put into it and he still failed at it. Ruined his health irreversibly and died a horrible death. On the short term you might think you are seeing benefits but on the long term the body doesn't tolerate disrespect.  

Look at the pain he's going through making himself eat to finally suffer from premature aging and had to have his gallbladder removed; like many vegans he's also developing this weird estrogen-manic behavior.

Edited 21 hours ago by Schizophonia

[AION]

6 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

Look at the pain he's going through making himself eat to finally suffer from premature aging and had to have his gallbladder removed; like many vegans he's also developing this weird estrogen-manic behavior.

I want to be nice tonight so I'm not going to comment but they idd turn into this black hole.

Edited 21 hours ago by AION

[Recursoinominado]

Vegan diet fucked up my health, i feel better on a low-carb diet, mostly keto with some fruits.

No matter how ethical veganism is, I will never sacrifice my health for the cause, and I feel nobody should.

Veganism isn't as healthy as the propaganda makes it seem, so not everyone will feel good on it. 

I do know a guy that seem to feels fine on a vegetarian diet (eats eggs and milk) but he is geneticaly blessed, which i am not. 

[Jowblob]

Don't mistake vegan diet with sattvic diet. Ones the body starts evolving energetically and the nervous system gets upgraded you won't need to eat much, you won't need meat or high calorie foods, you will see that this energetically heavy way of living was merely a belief that you held.

Unfortunately many of you won't comprehend it in your current spiritual progression, i was one of you and couldn't comprehend why people wouldnt eat meat when my whole life i ate meat everyday.

You will notice in your future life, why some things are the way they are, ones you have no choice but experiencing it.

Edited 21 hours ago by Jowblob

[Someone here]

@Bashar Also ..there is no such thing as everyone goes vegan . What kind of parallel universe you live in😂 ? Its like asking should everyone go gay ? People have different genetics and sensitivity that is imprinted in their biology since they were born . For example some people have allegeric reaction from drinking milk .they are literally deprived from drinking delicious creamy milk for their whole life because of this condition .so everyone must find  the diet that suits them perfectly. 

Also the higher you go in consciousness the more you listen to your body and what it needs in the moment . You can't just say I'm gonna sleep everyday at this exact time and wake up at this exact time and go to the bathroom only this time etc . Life is chaotic and doesn't give a damn about you trying to put everything in a Box and  create absolutist rules for everything.  But hey ..if you think vegan diet is healthier and makes you feel better..then by all means go for it .

Much love 🙏. 

[ivankiss]

Try feeding a lion nothing but apples and carrots and see where it goes.