Brains

[Terell Kirby]

The day my life changed is when I realized my experience of reality is not happening in what I conceptualize as my “brain”. In fact I don’t have a head or a brain outside of what I conceptualize. Implications of this realization were as follows:

1. what i call my body became an appearance in reality, I could step outside of identifying with it for periods at a time.
2. when my body become an appearance in reality, the distinction between it and everything else in reality collapsed.
3. There was longer any difference between what I called “my” body and the body of “others”. Meaning the self - other distinction collapsed.
4. The idea that I ever interacted with anything or anyone outside of present experience of reality was seen as an illusion.
5. This ultimately brought me to the realization that the experience of reality is not happening inside of any container that I could label “me” (what I call “me”). The “me” I take myself to be possess nothing in reality- humans I call “my” parents, “my” career, “my” house, “my” lover etc. The absence of me/my is what makes reality / the experience of -infinite.

 

Edited Saturday at 01:06 PM by Terell Kirby

[Leo Gura]

Correct. The brain is a fiction, where you thought you had a brain sits Infinity.

God does not need a brain. God is pure Mind.

Edited yesterday at 09:29 AM by Leo Gura

[AION]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Correct. The brain is a fiction, where you thought you had a brain sits Infinity.

God does not need a brain. God is pure Mind.

Infinity is everywhere. Not just in the brain. 

[Leo Gura]

6 minutes ago, AION said:

Infinity is everywhere. Not just in the brain. 

Correct.

There is no brain to be in.

[UnbornTao]

44 minutes ago, AION said:

Infinity is everywhere. Not just in the brain. 

When you say that, you're holding infinity as something subject to space - a "limitless" location. Accordingly, it isn't anywhere, because it isn't just another 'item' among other items.

In short, it cannot be thought. Whatever comes to mind in relation to it will miss the mark and be incorrect. Notice that this is very likely everything you have regarding it - notions about infinity: a mentally apprehensible form of knowing. This is not infinity.

Edited yesterday at 11:45 AM by UnbornTao

[Leo Gura]

Space is imagined by Infinity, so space does not apply to it.

Infinity is not in space, space is in Infinity.

Edited yesterday at 11:06 AM by Leo Gura

[UnbornTao]

14 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Space is imagined by Infinity, so space does not apply to it.

Infinity is not in space, space is in Infinity.

You said it was correct to claim that infinity is everywhere, as if it were an infinite object, but OK.

Edited yesterday at 11:20 AM by UnbornTao

[Leo Gura]

1 minute ago, UnbornTao said:

You said it was correct to claim that infinity is everywhere, as if it were an infinite object, but OK.

Well, it is everywhere.

God is Omnipresent. But this technically even transcends space.

"Everywhere" is said loosely since "where" is a metaphysically loaded notion.

[Ishanga]

The Brain focuses Infinity or Potential into Human Form so that we can understand life somewhat, if that was not in place, we would be here and overwhelmed by the brilliance and beauty, Awesomeness of Existence (this would make is so You wouldn't care about Survival, hence we would not have lasted long as a species and not here on this forum participating), so we have this pre wired Brain that lessens that affect, but we can go back to that state via proper Sadhana so its more balanced, we can live our normal lives but at anytime go back to how Brilliant Existence Is and Experience it Completely!

Edited yesterday at 12:44 PM by Ishanga

[Sugarcoat]

Maybe the brain works and makes experience possible but it’s just that the self that arises is not real. So in the same way that before and after enlightenment: if you throw a glass on the floor it will break. That’s how that particular appearance/form acts. So you could say the brain is a form like the glass, and it has certain behavior: and maybe the behavior is that it makes the experience of a self and world possible, the conscious experience. I don’t know but it’s just so elaborate how the form of the brain is explained, I don’t see enough ground to just disregard it. You could still recognize a concept as just a concept: the idea of a chair is never directly the chair, but it doesn’t disregard the reality of the chair by realizing that.

For example, something like exercise and psychedelics can change your experience (give you a kind of high). What they do, according to convention, is change the brain. We don’t have direct experience of this, but if we assume reality is not limited to our direct experience we could conceptualize that the appearance/form that is the brain at least contributes significantly to our subjective experience 

Edited yesterday at 01:10 PM by Sugarcoat

[Terell Kirby]

Who needs brains when you have God? 

[Ishanga]

43 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

Maybe the brain works and makes experience possible but it’s just that the self that arises is not real. So in the same way that before and after enlightenment: if you throw a glass on the floor it will break. That’s how that particular appearance/form acts. So you could say the brain is a form like the glass, and it has certain behavior: and maybe the behavior is that it makes the experience of a self and world possible, the conscious experience. I don’t know but it’s just so elaborate how the form of the brain is explained, I don’t see enough ground to just disregard it. You could still recognize a concept as just a concept: the idea of a chair is never directly the chair, but it doesn’t disregard the reality of the chair by realizing that.

For example, something like exercise and psychedelics can change your experience (give you a kind of high). What they do, according to convention, is change the brain. We don’t have direct experience of this, but if we assume reality is not limited to our direct experience we could conceptualize that the appearance/form that is the brain at least contributes significantly to our subjective experience 

Self (meaning personality, ideas about our self/others, individual traits/habits/patterns etc) it is real, but it is not what we are.  To say it is not "real" is a misnomer.  Maya means illusion, it does not mean something or things do not exist, it means they exist but not as You think or experience them too be, so Self exists, if it did not exist then none of us would be here on this forum, thinking and speaking as we do and You wouldn't care if You live or die or eat or sleep or are happy or sad...

But as Human Beings, there are two aspects to Us, we have the Human aspect, which is Self, Survival instinct, procreation, and all the Bullshit You see ppl doing today with status, success achievement and  accumulating material wealth and showing it off etc etc...., then there is BEING, this is what we are, We are what is before Self and allows Self to be possible, I call it Source Intelligence, Brain is just Body, it allows Experience and Expression to Exist and Happen, that Happens so we can be here to function in this dual, karmic, Potential arising realm called Earth and this present form Universe, so that we can reach Potentials beyond Self, Survival and such, this is in place so Absolute or Source Intelligence can Experience itself in boundless ways, it can't do that in realm that has no duality, Karma in place...Absolute or God is just a realm that is a Potential and Possibility making place, language/logic does not do justice to describing it, we are a particular expression of that Possibility and Potential, playing out a game of sorts in all reality!

[Ishanga]

14 minutes ago, Terell Kirby said:

Who needs brains when you have God? 

God is just an idea, a concept, few know of it, brain on the basic level, like what is going on around here, just allows ppl to intellectually know of it, which is below 1% of what it is... No brain and You not even at that level...

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Huh - where is the self? Point/touch tell. Grab it and show ☺️

[Ishanga]

6 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Huh - where is the self? Point/touch tell. Grab it and show ☺️

Self, the individualisation aspect of a Human Being, its in the Brain, and the Karmic makeup of the individual, Karma is what make You what You are and its unique, Karma also allows existence to happen, Physicality to Happen, its cause and effect, and the foundation to the existence of things, and its much more.. Think of it like the Software in a computer, it allows to the computer to function and have use to Us, then there is the hardware, motherboard, hard drive etc, that is our Body, Mind is Software, Karma is Software, memory on 8 different levels, layers upon layers of previous experience residue impression reflecting in your NOW experience influencing everything about You..

We cannot grab it, its invisible like air, but present in everything we do, unless we go beyond it via Awareness and the intelligence and clarity that Awareness brings Us!

Edited yesterday at 02:50 PM by Ishanga

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@Ishanga still an illusion - I am pointing to what most people think is the self arising as a result of the social domain 🙃