Everyone is me,everyone is same self

[Someone here]

58 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

What's a self?

@UnbornTao what's a thing? 

[UnbornTao]

7 minutes ago, Someone here said:

@UnbornTao what's a thing? 

Not sure. Are you implying that self is objective?

[Princess Arabia]

The me will always seek validation from other. Confirmation that it exists through other. That's why the "is this correct" remark. It is not a bug it's a feature. 

[Someone here]

1 minute ago, UnbornTao said:

Not sure. Are you implying that self is objective?

No I'm asking about the actual method by which we can define things like self or other or existence etc.

What I'm implying is the law of identity .a thing is itself .A=A. A self is a self .Red Is red .a tree is a tree.  A big hairy dick is a big hairy dick .

You can't define a thing in terms of other things ..by saying for example that red is photons. No it's not .

[UnbornTao]

1 hour ago, Someone here said:

No I'm asking about the actual method by which we can define things like self or other or existence etc.

What I'm implying is the law of identity .a thing is itself .A=A. A self is a self .Red Is red .a tree is a tree.  A big hairy dick is a big hairy dick .

You can't define a thing in terms of other things ..by saying for example that red is photons. No it's not .

I wasn't looking for a definition with my initial question, but rather trying to ("magically") sense the place the OP is coming from.

Maybe there was never a big hairy dick to begin with - nor a self.

Get enlightened and then tell us the secret. Either way, we'll have to grasp it for ourselves, so that's the rub.

Edited Wednesday at 01:49 PM by UnbornTao

[Someone here]

@UnbornTao I don't understand what you are meaning for the most part but okay .

[Zeroguy]

58 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

That's the mistake.

No that's no mistake what Consciousness is .Infinite Love,Infinite intelligence ,Infinite Goodness amd so much more .You can directly become conscious of this .

[DLH]

ME, ME, ME

 

Why am I always ME and not "Fully" aware of the other ME(s) beyond this limited human ME?

 

Why can’t I control and fully awaken to the ME dreaming as a human ME?

 

I see ME everywhere I look with these human eyes, and yet I am unable to move or change these objects and human actors with the “Mind” of ME.

 

Why can’t I consciously, "at-will", connect and communicate continually with the ME that acts the part of trees, animals, wind, seas, rocks, mountains, planets and stars, when it’s all ME and only ME?        “God-damn-it, What's wrong with ME"!       

 

Why does this ME always bounce and attach to thoughts and beliefs like snowflakes in a blizzard piling up into hard crusted snowbanks which drift endlessly with emotional gale-force winds of energy?

 

Why am I a ME, within a ME, within a ME, within a ME, within a ME?   Where and when will it ever End with the ME! that is the ABSOLUTE ME?

 

Why is this ME always searching, surviving, riding the perceived wave of chaos within the waking and sleeping dreaming fields of this limited ME-ness?

 

Why do I always return to this Human ME after a psychedelic adventure into the unknown field of ME-ness?

 

Nothing but poor old ME playing with ME-self in a sand box of infinite ME!

 

ME, Just playing in the "MIND-Field" of ME(s)

 

ME, ME, ME…….   So who are YOU?

Edited Wednesday at 06:41 PM by DLH

[vibv]

21 minutes ago, DLH said:

Why can’t I telepathically communicate and connect with the ME that acts the trees, animals, wind, seas, rocks and mountains when it’s all ME “God-damn-it”!

You can. You just have to be fully grounded in that, which chooses everything to be exactly as it is evolving.

As long as you resist anything, your Will is still in tumult and fights with itself. Only a Still (or 'Grounded') Will allows for Energy to further ascend. And only in the heart will there be that communion with all other beings you're looking for.

By the way: A grounded Will is the only Will, that has real Power and is able to move gracefully.

Edited Wednesday at 01:45 PM by vibv

[UnbornTao]

1 hour ago, Someone here said:

@UnbornTao I don't understand what you are meaning for the most part but okay .

A definition is different from a realization, essentially.

[Someone here]

3 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

A definition is different from a realization, essentially.

he said I had this realization. 

44 minutes ago, Zeroguy said:

No that's no mistake what Consciousness is .Infinite Love,Infinite intelligence ,Infinite Goodness amd so much more .You can directly become conscious of this .

"But how can you become conscious of this when there is no you ?"🤪

@Princess Arabia i will save you time .

[Princess Arabia]

6 minutes ago, Someone here said:

"But how can you become conscious of this when there is no you ?"🤪

@Princess Arabia i will save you time .

Jesus Christ, I cracked up so hard I almost choked. You're too much. 😅😅

[Princess Arabia]

53 minutes ago, Zeroguy said:

No that's no mistake what Consciousness is .Infinite Love,Infinite intelligence ,Infinite Goodness amd so much more .You can directly become conscious of this .

I was speaking of the "that's me" part. But you're right. Consciousness is the dream and is a part of the "me" package, so you're perfectly correct. Only thing is none of it actually exists and is all a part of the dream. It's all wrapped up in it's own reality and none of it can exist without the other. "Becoming conscious of this", is the dream being conscious of itself. 

[Someone here]

@Princess Arabia good that you've glimpsed for a sec how retarded you sound lol jk 😂 

[Princess Arabia]

Just now, Someone here said:

@Princess Arabia good that you've glimpsed for a sec how retarded you sound lol jk 😂 

No, everybody else sounds retarded thinking they are a someone. That's the retardation and the only retardation in all of THIS.

[Someone here]

@Princess Arabia you have good insights and this whole no self stuff is not complete hogwash. Buddhism has been teaching about it before history was even recorded . It's just no the entire shebang .and I'm sure you understand this very well .why do you choose to limit yourself to it ? That's the million dollars question. 

[Princess Arabia]

Just now, Someone here said:

@Princess Arabia you have good insights and this whole no self stuff is not complete hogwash. Buddhism has been teaching about it before history was even recorded . It's just no the entire shebang .and I'm sure you understand this very well .why do you choose to limit yourself to it ? That's the million dollars question. 

You're mistaken. I've not limited myself to anything. Not even sure what you mean. It's not all I talk about, I do have other interests. Seems like when people speak on their beloved traumas and never-ending sufferings and godforsaken so-called problems and worries of the world and so on and so forth, that's more accepted and considered normal. The unnatural is more accepted and normalized than the natural. It is complete and utter neurosis what's happening here with the seeking energy but it cannot be recognized as such because it is wrapped up in it's own delusional world. I refuse to be the crab being dragged down back into the bucket. That's what you're trying to do without even recognizing it. It is more comfortable being a someone than a no one even if that brings suffering and pain at least i can feel like a somebody - and that's the whole play of the seeking energy.

[Princess Arabia]

13 minutes ago, Someone here said:

you have good insights

It's not that I have good insights, it's that ever since I took myself out the picture when trying to see through all this stuff everything started falling into place; and I mean everything. Not one thing has fallen apart so far if I'm not there. Conceptually, I mean, but there is no lived experience that can verify my absence, so it has to be conceptual when talking about it. Anyone that says they experience no-self is lying and mistaken, it cannot be experienced as there is already no-self and no one there to experience their own absence. Drugs can induce something but that's not the same as an actual no-self. 

[Someone here]

17 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

You're mistaken. I've not limited myself to anything. Not even sure what you mean. It's not all I talk about, I do have other interests. Seems like when people speak on their beloved traumas and never-ending sufferings and godforsaken so-called problems and worries of the world and so on and so forth, that's more accepted and considered normal. The unnatural is more accepted and normalized than the natural. It is complete and utter neurosis what's happening here with the seeking energy but it cannot be recognized as such because it is wrapped up in it's own delusional world. I refuse to be the crab being dragged down back into the bucket. That's what you're trying to do without even recognizing it. It is more comfortable being a someone than a no one even if that brings suffering and pain at least i can feel like a somebody - and that's the whole play of the seeking energy.

What I meant by saying you are limiting yourself to it is apparent here in this post . Please come on..you think you need to say that you have other interests? Is that up for negotiation?  You have +20k views threads on nutrition and this section as well .even Leo pinned a topic from you before if I'm not mistaken . I just meant you are limiting yourself to it when you talk about spirituality. Spirituality is much more deeper than the realization of no separation and no separate selves inside the body giving it commands. This is readily obvious in direct experience if you try to find a yourself .its just like ok we get it .what's next ? There is philosophy..science..epistemology..politics..comparative religions..technology etc.

Edited Wednesday at 02:41 PM by Someone here

[Princess Arabia]

6 minutes ago, Someone here said:

. Spirituality is much more deeper

There's nothing deep about spirituality. It's all concepts and stories based off of belief systems and ideas about life. We can pretend it's all deep and how conscious we are and all that jazz; but in reality, there's nothing deep about anything, only to a ficticious observer and to the dream. I can make spirituality deep or I can make counting crows deep, all depends on the dream.