What’s an opinion?

[Hojo]

@UnbornTao I already said a logical conclusion. Where your logic stops the first thing I said.You are asking me to expand and be abstact to clarify now your telling me to not be so abstract.

Edited October 5 by Hojo

[UnbornTao]

On 10/5/2025 at 5:36 PM, Hojo said:

@UnbornTao I already said a logical conclusion. Where your logic stops the first thing I said.You are asking me to expand and be abstact to clarify now your telling me to not be so abstract.

How could a conclusion or logic be existential? This is the distinction we're trying to make here. It's relatively straightforward. You already recognize that there's something operating - let's call this objective reality - that, no matter how much you try to mess with it, either conceptually or physically, will stay relatively the same. This isn't the only criterion but it makes the point. The fact that objects fall down isn't a logical conclusion. It might not be ultimately "true," but you experience it as a solid reality every day, even as a baby before you could make sense of it (even though you did have to learn to align with it). There's no need to bring in abstract considerations like solipsism or duality.

Edited October 6 by UnbornTao

[Hojo]

@UnbornTao the conclusion if logic isn't logical or a conclusion its a thing called an opinion.

Your logic can stop anywhere and does stop somewhere. When logic and conclusion have a baby they make something called an opinion.

Edited October 6 by Hojo

[UnbornTao]

1 hour ago, Hojo said:

@UnbornTao the conclusion if logic isn't logical or a conclusion its a thing called an opinion.

Your logic can stop anywhere and does stop somewhere. When logic and conclusion have a baby they make something called an opinion.

So "opinion is existential" is what you're saying? 

[Hojo]

@UnbornTaoYes its who you are. You arent any facts facts require 2 people.

Edited October 6 by Hojo

[UnbornTao]

1 minute ago, Hojo said:

@UnbornTaoYes its who you are.

Oh no

I hold a different opinion

Edited October 6 by UnbornTao

[Yimpa]

Holding multiple perspectives takes ballz 

 

On 5/7/2025 at 0:29 AM, Yimpa said:

On 5/6/2025 at 11:51 PM, AION said:

1 became 2 and then

 

Edited October 6 by Yimpa

[Hojo]

@UnbornTao Not to me you dont.

[UnbornTao]

4 hours ago, Hojo said:

You arent any facts facts require 2 people.

3 hours ago, Hojo said:

@UnbornTao Not to me you dont.

You have an unusual notion of opinion and fact… I don't follow the inferences and assumptions you make to reach those conclusions.

Now, independent of ourselves, we could ask what's actually occurring in any given situation or condition - or what's true. That would be something else, I'd say. And opinions couldn't touch that, no matter how fervently we defend our notions and desires.

Edited October 7 by UnbornTao

[UnbornTao]

@Yimpa 

We could say that, in that photo, the act of counting is taking place - hence it is factual, as is their act of making observations. They are perceiving something - some object - the number of which they disagree on.

A "fact" can fall into the category of what is obvious and taken for granted.

An opinion, on the other hand, may be regarded as their current view or judgment of the situation; in this case, that the count they are making is correct from their point of view.

Or something like that, maybe.

Edited October 7 by UnbornTao