I had a real awakening

[Meeksauce]

17 minutes ago, Salariatu said:

Then, tell me about about the spirits of the dead, what are they? How can you contact them? How they work? 

Great, I contacted my deceased mom's spirit during my trip. She never actually existed to begin with, it's just that when you contact a dead relative it's your mind recreating your image of them. Parents especially leave a deep psychological impact, so you could say a part of them lives inside you. When you contact them it's that part of your mind coming out.

[Meeksauce]

6 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

The versions of idealism that are consistent with non-duality as the ultimate reality claim that whatever you perceive in your mind's eye is limited, while non-duality is unlimited. When you start claiming things about perception in your mind's eye, what it is, what its boundaries are, what its limitations are, you are outside the domain of non-duality and into relative philosophy. In other words, solipsism is relative philosophy, not absolute truth. The absolute exists beyond all limitations, beyond any notion of a boundary, internal and external, it's all speculative.

Sigh. You got it all backwards. Why are you even following Leo if you're not gonna take his teachings seriously. Go be a materialist.

[Carl-Richard]

9 minutes ago, Meeksauce said:

Sigh. You got it all backwards. Why are you even following Leo if you're not gonna take his teachings seriously. Go be a materialist.

I shoot Buddhas for a living.

I think solipsism is more like materialism than idealism, partially by you being unwilling or unable to argue for your position, partially by it being, well, stuck in the relative rather than taking absolute reality for what it is.

Edited yesterday at 04:21 AM by Carl-Richard

[Meeksauce]

23 minutes ago, Salariatu said:

Look, i'm not humble, if you know you know, if you don't you don't. But saying you know and can't explain it, than you don't know you are still sleeping. I'm talking in general here. 

But I do know. And I can explain it.

[Meeksauce]

1 minute ago, Carl-Richard said:

I shoot Buddhas for a living.

I think solipsism is more like materialism than idealism, partially by you being unwilling or unable to argue for your position, partially by it being, well, stuck in philosophy rather than taking reality for what it is.

You are the one stuck in philosophy. I have verified everything in my direct experience, and I'm willing to explain it to you to high heaven. But there would be no point because it's exactly what Leo talks about, and you're never going to listen. You're never going to awaken with this attitude. If you don't recognize awakening as a possibility, you will forever be a rat in the wheel of day to day monotony and never experience the finer things life has to offer. You can't seriously take any viewpoints about reality and not acknowledge there are valid aspects of Buddhism. And you're not distinguishing between fake and authentic buddhas. There are so many epistemic errors in your ideas and writing. You're assuming I'm coming from a place of dogma without considering the possibility that I could be right and you are wrong. You are the one with dogma and philosophical baggage. You just like Rupert Spira and how he says solipsism bad. You haven't proved any of your theories for yourself like I have.

[Carl-Richard]

10 minutes ago, Meeksauce said:

You are the one stuck in philosophy. I have verified everything in my direct experience, and I'm willing to explain it to you to high heaven. But there would be no point because it's exactly what Leo talks about, and you're never going to listen. You're never going to awaken with this attitude. If you don't recognize awakening as a possibility, you will forever be a rat in the wheel of day to day monotony and never experience the finer things life has to offer. You can't seriously take any viewpoints about reality and not acknowledge there are valid aspects of Buddhism. And you're not distinguishing between fake and authentic buddhas. There are so many epistemic errors in your ideas and writing. You're assuming I'm coming from a place of dogma without considering the possibility that I could be right and you are wrong. You are the one with dogma and philosophical baggage. You just like Rupert Spira and how he says solipsism bad. You haven't proved any of your theories for yourself like I have.

I know you like Leo, and I know you just took some LSD, but said tongue in cheek, the world didn't come into existence yesterday, us "skeptics" have been following Leo for a long time, done a lot of LSD, even meditated quite a bit. Thinking differently about things is still possible despite that. So now, what is your thinking on the topic? You don't need to tell anymore that you had an experience. I can trust that you had.

Edited yesterday at 04:34 AM by Carl-Richard

[Meeksauce]

8 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

I know you like Leo, and I know you just took some LSD, but said tongue in cheek, the world didn't come into existence yesterday, us "skeptics" have been following Leo for a long time, done a lot of LSD, even meditated quite a bit. Thinking differently about things is still possible despite that. So now, what is your thinking on the topic? You don't need to tell anymore that you had an experience. I can trust that you had.

You are being condescending. And you clearly never took a high enough dose of psychedelics to make some real headway with God. They're not drugs but tools you put here to jailbreak your mind whenever you want to. You know they do this, but are too scared to go deeper. What I experienced on the trip has stuck long after. The mystical aspects of the trip just never wore off. My thinking on the topic is that there is no possible way I'm wrong. I would have to ignore hundreds of the most incredible feats of magic coincidences which are glaringly obvious and I would have to be an idiot to ignore them. To deny it from the place I'm at now would be pure lunacy. Imagine God knocks on your doorstep and you look him right in the eyes, see that he's God, and just say "nope that's not God". That's what you're asking me to do by saying "think about it".

Edited yesterday at 04:42 AM by Meeksauce

[Carl-Richard]

Just now, Meeksauce said:

You are being condescending. What I experienced on the trip has stuck long after. The mystical aspects of the trip just never wore off. My thinking on the topic is that there is no possible way I'm wrong. I would have to ignore hundreds of the most incredible feats of magic coincidences which are glaringly obvious and I would have to be an idiot to ignore them. To deny it from the place I'm at now would be pure lunacy. Imagine God knocks on your doorstep and you look him right in the eyes, see that he's God, and just say "nope that's not God". That's what you're asking me to do by saying "think about it".

Think about this again (I made a slight edit that was more accurate and less likely to offend you):

27 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

I think solipsism is more like materialism than idealism, [...], partially by it being, well, stuck in the relative rather than taking absolute reality for what it is.

 

[Meeksauce]

3 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

Think about this again (I made a slight edit that was more accurate and less likely to offend you):

 

I've thought about it. Solipsism is not relative. Solipsism is absolute. What is relative about being the only being that exists. Even in concept.

[Carl-Richard]

1 hour ago, Meeksauce said:

I've thought about it. Solipsism is not relative. Solipsism is absolute. What is relative about being the only being that exists. Even in concept.

You also say objects exist (as you said in a previous post). Objects are relative. They are defined by limitation. And when you say objects do not exist in an external world, you are imposing more limitations on those objects, which is also relative.

Edited yesterday at 06:19 AM by Carl-Richard

[ExploringReality]

9 hours ago, Terell Kirby said:

How can we be so sure though?

You cannot be sure without personally validating and realizing the nature of Truth for oneself. Beliefs, hearsay and ideas are only that. He's saying what Leo said is correct is only correct when personally verified to be the case, not correct as in something factual to be believed. 

[Meeksauce]

1 hour ago, Carl-Richard said:

You also say objects exist (as you said in a previous post). Objects are relative. They are defined by limitation. And when you say objects do not exist in an external world, you are imposing more limitations on those objects, which is also relative.

Real and unreal are the same thing. There is no difference. Man how are you moderator on here and you don't know this lol

[Sincerity]

@Meeksauce Nice work!  Yes, solipsism is the case, awesome that you awoke to it. But I’d say be wary of the concept of God communicating with you. There IS truth to it, but there’s also a myriad of ways you can delude yourself about it. Remember that thoughts perceiving „communication” and interpreting it to mean something can VERY easily be incorrect. So I recommend adopting a stance of not knowing what anything „means”.

[Meeksauce]

3 minutes ago, Sincerity said:

@Meeksauce Nice work!  Yes, solipsism is the case, awesome that you awoke to it. But I’d say be wary of the concept of God communicating with you. There IS truth to it, but there’s also a myriad of ways you can delude yourself about it. Remember that thoughts perceiving „communication” and interpreting it to mean something can VERY easily be incorrect. So I recommend adopting a stance of not knowing what anything „means”.

It may not look the same for everyone, but I know for me this is part of my awakening process. I struggled with schizophrenia for a long time and this was an awesome way to recontectualize it and fully heal myself in one fell swoop. The bottom line of reality is that you are creating it with your mind. That can look like a lot of different things for different people. I don't see how I can be wrong at this point, as I would have to constantly ignore the glaringly obvious signs that reality is in my head and I'm creating it all. Misunderstanding the signals from God is actually what led to my schizophrenia, but it was all part of the process. I like to think of it as an image that started low resolution and continuously got higher and higher. Thanks for the comment though, yes keeping an open mind is important but only up to a certain point, then you have to close it off to things that you know to be absolutely true. Leo is right about this! (And everything else). He also says yes you can communicate with God in his facets of awakening video.

2 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

You also say objects exist (as you said in a previous post). Objects are relative. They are defined by limitation. And when you say objects do not exist in an external world, you are imposing more limitations on those objects, which is also relative.

 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

4 hours ago, Meeksauce said:

They do though. Reality has an intellect and is able to be understood. Language exists as a mechanism for God to interact with and understand itself.

Language can only act as a pointer - words are not precisely what they label.

Light could mean light weight, light from the sun, light sleeper etc

Without proper context the word is meaningless.

Language is tricky, and can only give general direction with deep topics.

 

[Mellowmarsh]

13 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

Lol. Of course. You don't want to die either. Thing is, youre not really alive so it's the dead talking to the dead as nothing. 

Distinguishing the "Living" from the "Dead":

It implies that those who are spiritually focused, the "living" , should not be hindered by the concerns of those who are spiritually "dead,"
 

That which lives never dies,  and that which dies never lived.

 

[Caoimhin]

Stop seeking spiritual awakening. Seek true humility. I've only ever found that in Christianity. A true self denial that allows for Christ to live in us and make us new.

the litany of humility: 

○ Jesus! meek and humble of heart, Hear me.

From the desire of being esteemed, Deliver me, Jesus

From the desire of being loved, Deliver me, Jesus

From the desire of being extolled, Deliver me, Jesus

From the desire of being honored, Deliver me, Jesus.

From the desire of being praised, Deliver me, Jesus

From the desire of being preferred to others, Deliver me, Jesus

From the desire of being consulted, Deliver me, Jesus

From the desire of being approved, Deliver me, Jesus.

From the fear of being humiliated, Deliver me, Jesus,

From the fear of being despised, Deliver me, Jesus

From the fear of suffering rebukes, Deliver me, Jesus

From the fear of being calumniated, Deliver me, Jesus

From the fear of being forgotten, Deliver me, Jesus.

From the fear of being ridiculed, Deliver me, Jesus

From the fear of being wronged, Deliver me, Jesus.

From the fear of being suspected, Deliver me, Jesus

That others may be loved more than l,

Jesus, grant me the grace to desire it.

That others may be esteemed more than |,

Jesus, grant me the grace to desire it

That, in the opinion of the world, others may increase and I may decrease,

Jesus, grant me the grace to desire it.

That others may be chosen and I set aside,

Jesus, grant me the grace to desire it.

That others may be praised and I unnoticed,

Jesus, grant me the grace to desire it

That others may be preferred to me in everything,

Jesus, grant me the grace to desire it.

That others may become holier than l|, provided that I may become as holy as I should,

Jesus, grant me the grace to desire it.

 

[Eskilon]

@Meeksauce You said that your fear of death is not out of the system. How can that be? Did your awakening not point to infinity?

Edited yesterday at 01:48 PM by Eskilon

[Salariatu]

12 hours ago, Meeksauce said:

Great, I contacted my deceased mom's spirit during my trip. She never actually existed to begin with, it's just that when you contact a dead relative it's your mind recreating your image of them. Parents especially leave a deep psychological impact, so you could say a part of them lives inside you. When you contact them it's that part of your mind coming out.

Well, you are lying to yourself. 

You took the idea of the ego collective consciousness and you made up this frases, in fact you identified with the ''agent smith'' and made up this frases, you haven't escaped the matrix pal. This is not an insult, this is reality. 

So really what you think about the dead is a lie, because you did not open your third eye yet and you just babbling info about the spirits of the dead, based on the mind.

Take care

Edited yesterday at 03:13 PM by Salariatu

[Ishanga]

@Meeksauce You've had an Awakening, that is Great! You realized everything is One, Complete, this is Great, this is what the Absolute Is!

Problem is You still have an Ego, Body and Mind to deal with, these things provide Experience, so You came back and Realized everything is One, but then communicated that "I only Exist" solipsism stuff, which is not so Great!

There is no "I" in Oneness, but there is an "I" in You and Everyone else, that is the whole point of this Existence here on Earth and Us being Humans. We can go from being totally "I", Egoic based, me/myself/I experience, which is basic Survival level instinct and Awareness, to what You Experienced which is Oneness, but is there is no "I"..

If You are the only one in existence then whom are You sharing with, it would make no sense and doesn't.

Just don't think about it so much or try to argue a philosophy (Solipsism), just share the experience of Oneness, this should make life for You a whole lot better, time will tell!