Carl-Richard

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Are you sure that this isn't just an elaborate way for you to justify voting right wing to yourself without having to admit to yourself that that's just how you want to vote?

Like, maybe you like the idea of the identity of being the person who votes for the Green Party... but you actually want to vote for the right wing because it pushes certain buttons for you and you resonate with it more.

But you perhaps don't like the identity of voting for the right wing... and don't want to see yourself or have others see you as a right winger. Maybe you prefer to see yourself as a liberal and to have others see you as a liberal.

So, this whole anti-stoner thing is a way for you to alleviate the cognitive dissonance around wanting to vote to the right and having right wing values.

Like, "It's not that I support the far right. It's just that stoners annoy me and are a huge problem. So, I decided to vote for the far right that will crack down on them."

Thus, shifting the responsibility for your preferences onto stoners. Like "Damn you stoners! If it wasn't for you guys, I would have voted for liberals!"


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42 minutes ago, Emerald said:

Are you sure that this isn't just an elaborate way for you to justify voting right wing to yourself without having to admit to yourself that that's just how you want to vote?

Like, maybe you like the idea of the identity of being the person who votes for the Green Party... but you actually want to vote for the right wing because it pushes certain buttons for you and you resonate with it more.

It pushes the button of "through clever argument and reason, we can have our cake and eat it too, we can be efficient, pragmatic and caring all at the same time". The trouble though is that I do not have the deep penetrating knowledge of government or the economy to truly evaluate the arguments.

All I can say "cool story bro, it would be cool if it were true, but here is another story which I can argue just as well, and we don't have the ability to simulate a science experiment with our government in a virtual reality, so we can't really test our policies in a rigorous way, we can only compare Sweden to Norway, apples to oranges, employment rates in 2021 with the covid pandemic in full swing to the employment rates of today".

What this really is an expression of is my trauma of being straight out poisoned by somebody close to me as a prank with THC which actually made me "high" high, which was one month before an important exam and which threw me into a feeling of lack of control and heightened sensitivity to malevolence. So whenever I smell the smell of weed now, I'm reminded by how I was wronged and that I'm being wronged right now, and it's a heightened response compared to normal because of that trauma. But I still feel what I feel, so I express what I feel.

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15 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

It pushes the button of "through clever argument and reason, we can have our cake and eat it too, we can be efficient, pragmatic and caring all at the same time". The trouble though is that I do not have the deep penetrating knowledge of government or the economy to truly evaluate the arguments.

All I can say "cool story bro, it would be cool if it were true, but here is another story which I can argue just as well, and we don't have the ability to simulate a science experiment with a government in a virtual reality, so we can't really test our policies in a rigorous way, we can only compare Sweden to Norway, apples to oranges, employment rates in 2021 with the covid pandemic in full swing to the employment rates of today".

What this really is an expression of is my trauma of being straight out poisoned by somebody close to me as a prank with THC which actually made me "high" high, which was one month before an important exam and which threw me into a feeling of lack of control and heightened sensitivity to malevolence. So whenever I smell the smell of weed now, I'm reminded by how I was wronged and that I'm being wronged right now and that it's a heightened response compared to normal because of that trauma. But I still feel what I feel, so I express what I feel.

So, smelling weed is like a trigger for that feared chaotic dynamic where you feel vulnerable to losing your sense of stability.

And then, the rationalization of changing voting to get more authoritarian policies regarding marijuana is the desire for someone in power to come in and exercise that authoritarianism in a way that removes the trigger to help you feel like you're less vulnerable to chaos?

It's actually a really common trigger for why people vote for authoritarian policies. They want someone to come in like a parent and control external people and forces to help the person who's supporting authoritarian policies regulate their feelings and feel less dysregulated. 

It doesn't work of course, as it's more of an internal issue than an external one. But it's a common reaction that leads people to supporting more authoritarian governments who they look to as a way of punishing wrong-doers that make the supporter feel uncomfortable.

But authoritarian governments know that it is people's chaotic feelings that make them clamor for authoritarianism in the first place. So, they have to keep that chaos alive inside of the imaginations of the people who support them. So, supporters must be fed a constant supply of triggers.

So, they deliberately scare-monger and unsteady their supporters... and cause them to feel more chaotic and less emotionally regulated. They usually scapegoat minorities of various types. But they sometimes do this with drug users as well.

So, just be careful with this. Having this trigger makes you vulnerable to being sucked into authoritarian movements, if the leaders of said movements make promises to stop and punish weed smokers... and other peripheral groups.


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4 minutes ago, Emerald said:

So, smelling weed is like a trigger for that feared chaotic dynamic where you feel vulnerable to losing your sense of stability.

And then, the rationalization of changing voting to get more authoritarian policies regarding marijuana is the desire for someone in power to come in and exercise that authoritarianism in a way that removes the trigger to help you feel like you're less vulnerable to chaos?

It's actually a really common trigger for why people vote for authoritarian policies. They want someone to come in like a parent and control external people and forces to help the person who's supporting authoritarian policies regulate their feelings and feel less dysregulated. 

It doesn't work of course, as it's more of an internal issue than an external one. But it's a common reaction that leads people to supporting more authoritarian governments who they look to as a way of punishing wrong-doers that make the supporter feel uncomfortable.

But authoritarian governments know that it is people's chaotic feelings that make them clamor for authoritarianism in the first place. So, they have to keep that chaos alive inside of the imaginations of the people who support them. So, supporters must be fed a constant supply of triggers.

So, they deliberately scare-monger and unsteady their supporters... and cause them to feel more chaotic and less emotionally regulated. They usually scapegoat minorities of various types. But they sometimes do this with drug users as well.

So, just be careful with this. Having this trigger makes you vulnerable to being sucked into authoritarian movements, if the leaders of said movements make promises to stop and punish weed smokers... and other peripheral groups.

Honestly, It was a kind of a throwaway thought in this context and was a humoristic nod to my other thread where I did debate voting Right or Left but for completely different reasons. But I could see myself sitting in a meeting arguing for stricter public smoking policies with regards to psychedelic-esque drugs, but as a representative of the Green Party 😁


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11 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

Honestly, It was a kind of a throwaway thought in this context and was a humoristic nod to my other thread where I did debate voting Right or Left but for completely different reasons. But I could see myself sitting in a meeting arguing for stricter public smoking policies with regards to psychedelic-esque drugs, but as a representative of the Green Party 😁

I just wanted to mention, just in case.

It's perfectly fine to want stricter public smoking policies, as long as you don't end up supporting authoritarians to get to those ends.


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6 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

I can't describe myself as hating people, and definitely not stoners.

Good to know.

I was just feeling the vibes of the thread, and that insight came out of thin air. Puff I’ve been keeping bottled up inside.

It was a sober insight, too! 

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I was in Norway a while ago.
The weed smell was everywhere lol.

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12 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

Yes, in fact, I'm running the forum live from the mental hospital right now as we speak. Shame Leo is also schizo-friendic, my schizo-best-friendy.

You know what is also not normal? Kundalini symptoms. You know what kundalini symptoms do? They make you sensitive to energy.

 

There's probably very few people in the world like you, a very small percentage. So just because of you, everybody else should lose the freedom to smoke in public?

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@Carl-Richard so, were you joking about getting high off the secondhand smoke? It seems impossible to me unless you're trying very hard. I only ever tried to smoke weed once and I didn't get high, actually smoking it.

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1 hour ago, cistanche_enjoyer said:

There's probably very few people in the world like you, a very small percentage. So just because of you, everybody else should lose the freedom to smoke in public?

Smoking in public is already not allowed. I just want tighter regulations. If people vote for it or not, it is what it is.


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41 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

Smoking in public is already not allowed. I just want tighter regulations. If people vote for it or not, it is what it is.

Fun fact, here in Texas, they banned THC vapes from being sold for recreational use. On the flip side, they legalized vape to be sold for patients under their medical program. 

Responsible people who actually deserve to use it shouldn't be punished for it; I'm on the conservative side when it comes to this. I will start using it as soon as it becomes available; not daily. Only occasionally, before therapy, so I can go deeper into my healing.

Edit: Yes, we need to continue expanding medical access. And yes, seeing a provider who guides you on using it is wise. I didn't get full dispensary access until a year of being in the program. 

It's like a video game, you don't get the reward unless you worked your ass for it first.

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43 minutes ago, Elliott said:

@Carl-Richard so, were you joking about getting high off the secondhand smoke? It seems impossible to me unless you're trying very hard. I only ever tried to smoke weed once and I didn't get high, actually smoking it.

I also thought I didn't get high the first time I smoked it. There is a phenomena called sensitization. If you're an ex-stoner like me and you also were essentially traumatized by somebody poisoning you (+ you've had a large panic attack or ego death situation on weed, which was the reason I quit for good), it's not just paranoia involved, it's actual pharmacological and psychological sensitization going on.

Then there are also individual differences in how you respond to weed (it is very psychedelic for me) and general introspective (and interoceptive) ability (long-time meditator, multiple big non-dual experiences).

However, there are cases where even unsuspecting unsensitized people can get seriously high from second-hand smoke. It's just a question of concentration and time of exposure. If you're unlucky and you walk behind somebody on the street who blows a big cloud of smoke and you happen to inhale a big chunk of it before it has been widely dispersed, it's very possible that you will get high.

It's a kind of a paradox: some people don't get high the first time they smoke, and other people get high from just a few puffs the first time they smoke. Some of it can be explained by sensitization, but I believe a lot of it can be explained by new smokers being inexperienced with the act of smoking and not getting enough into their lungs (and they are smoking in a situation where second-hand smoke is otherwise minimal, e.g. in a windy place outdoors).

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@Carl-Richard I'm skeptical. 

Do you think you possibly inhaled trace amounts before you were aware you smelled the weed, that triggered your emotions? Something you're unaware of?

To the legal point, should we ban dogs too, since people are allergic to dogs? I'm being Devils advocate, I'm indifferent on the issue. I don't care for the smell, but it doesn't affect me.

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Don’t judge if you don’t want to be judged. That is the whole problem with spiritual people. They know everything but they don’t know basic psychology like projection. 

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Just now, Elliott said:

@Carl-Richard I'm skeptical. 

Do you think you possibly inhaled trace amounts before you were aware you smelled the weed, that triggered your emotions? Something you're unaware of?

This is my memory: I was working out, I was completely emotionally neutral, then I felt the kundalini rush in the spine and altered perception, then I later smelled the weed. Then I saw the bloodshot eyes person who smelled like weed. If you wanted to blame it all on an emotional reaction, you would ideally place the order of events in the opposite order.

 

8 minutes ago, Elliott said:

To the legal point, should we ban dogs too, since people are allergic to dogs? I'm being Devils advocate, I'm indifferent on the issue. I don't care for the smell, but it doesn't affect me.

We already have banned smoking in public places. i just want tighter restrictions. Dogs are also banned in some public places and also some dogs on flights.


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9 minutes ago, AION said:

Don’t judge if you don’t want to be judged. That is the whole problem with spiritual people. They know everything but they don’t know basic psychology like projection. 

Wut 😂


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On 2025-09-02 at 2:28 PM, Recursoinominado said:

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I second this


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On 2/9/2025 at 7:28 PM, Recursoinominado said:

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Is that cheetah a nazi?

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32 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

We already have banned smoking in public places.

Not everywhere. In Germany you are free to smoke weed in public places, as long as you're not near parks/schools/hospitals/places for children.

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Also, you guys talking like I'm not normal while I'm about to quote the most normie source possible:

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[...] THC can be passed to infants and children through secondhand smoke, and people exposed to secondhand cannabis smoke can experience psychoactive effects, such as feeling high. [3] [4] Recent studies have found strong associations between reports of having someone in the home who uses cannabis (e.g., a parent, relative, or caretaker) and the child having detectable levels of THC. [...]

https://www.cdc.gov/cannabis/health-effects/secondhand-smoke.html


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