Jannes

I am paradigm locked into believing all women want serious relationships

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It is the case that women want and need commitment. However, that doesn't mean you can't find women for casual sex. Many women will do casual sex for a while. But not forever.

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Women are different to different guys. If you portray yourself as a provider-boyfriend you will be treated as such and forced to pay a premium. 

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3 minutes ago, AION said:

Women are different to different guys. If you portray yourself as a provider-boyfriend you will be treated as such and forced to pay a premium. 

Even if you go with the perfect player frame, eventually she will want more.


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45 minutes ago, AION said:

Women are different to different guys. If you portray yourself as a provider-boyfriend you will be treated as such and forced to pay a premium. 

That only really works to keep a woman from wanting commitment if she really is just wanting a sexual encounter.

But if a woman is just wanting sex, then that's usually going to be a one-off encounter for a time when she feels lonely and the man lucked out because he was there to fill that need for the night. 

But if the woman wants to continue sleeping with a guy and spending time with him, then she most certainly wants a relationship even if she's in denial about it and says, "I'm fine with friends with benefits" but unconsciously believes that she will eventually win the guy over (which never works).

So regardless of the frame that a guy takes, a woman who sleeps with him and keeps sleeping with him is definitely wanting more and wanting a deeper connection.

And the guy could be the biggest player and maintain that frame perfectly, which will signify to the women who really want one-off sexual encounters that he's the guy for the job.

But if he has women on a regulation rotation, undoubtedly they all desperately want to be his girlfriend.

They are just in denial about what they really want and are choosing WHO they want over WHAT they want.

And they (deep down) hope that, with the magical power of their love, he will one day open his heart and pick them... and it causes them to accept breadcrumbs from a man who doesn't really value them.

So, it really doesn't matter how much of a player frame a guy takes if the woman has agreed to more than one or two sexual encounters with him. If it's gone that far, she has definitely developed an attachment.


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Yeah, women by nature tend to be more LTR-oriented than men and yeah I do believe that most women, especially those in their late 20s to 30s, want to try to lock down a man they have enough interest in.

However, if you approach and ask out enough women out there like crazy, then you will be surprised by how many women out there will just want to use a guy just for sex, even if you don't feel used, or even if you wanted to see them again for something more.

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@Hardkill I have seen a women use a guy for sex and orgasms who wants more emotionally but she rejects him on that level. THAT and lighter version of that I experienced are the biggest mindfuck. 

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If a woman is in ovulation they tend to be different. So I don’t think all women want a LTR. Especially during this period they show different behavior. On the long term most aim for LTR but from a certain type of guy with a perceived value. Usually it is a guy that other women want which creates a halo effect or rockstar effect on a small scale. That is why desperation is such  turn off because you subconsciously signaling “nobody wants me” although that might not even be the case. She is subconsciously picking up on what you are laying down. That is why frame is of essence for a woman to want a LTR. If you don’t want a LTR as a guy you should portray artificial desperation and she will distance from you. 

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13 hours ago, Jannes said:

@Hardkill I have seen a women use a guy for sex and orgasms who wants more emotionally but she rejects him on that level. THAT and lighter version of that I experienced are the biggest mindfuck. 

Yeah would be great if they just said that they want only sex and orgasms :D 

Women CAN have a way of making you like them for some stuff they are just pretending (same applies for men oc)


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On 8/18/2025 at 2:04 PM, Emerald said:

But if the woman wants to continue sleeping with a guy and spending time with him, then she most certainly wants a relationship even if she's in denial about it and says, "I'm fine with friends with benefits" but unconsciously believes that she will eventually win the guy over (which never works).

Omg this is so true. I think it is largely unconscious as well 


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