I Escaped a Cult - Monastic Academy for the Preservation of Life on Earth Review

[zurew]

6 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

and you didn't respond

Yes I have with the murder scene analogy and you havent addressed it (you havent shown that the bit that you picked out is  false, you just said that that one bit being true in and of itself doesnt make something a cult).

But even if you could show that that bit is false and isn't applicable to actualized.org (which again you havent done yet) - Cult is a cluster concept and this is not the kind of concept where you can just find all the necessary conditions and if you manage to shot down one of those, then the thing is not a cult anymore.

There are many different configuration of facts that can make something a cult. This is why you need to analyze this in clusters of facts and not just bit by bit.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

16 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

I grant you that, Leo is rough around the edges, when it comes to responding to people with different realizations than him. But think about it, what does he have to gain by doing so. He'll probably just piss some people off who end up leaving. 

This can be explained by egoic attachment to the teacher role, narcissism. Inflated ego. 

Could be many motivations behind it. 

It could be a mechanism to funnel out those who would not follow, and keep narcissistic supply close via adoration from students.

Just some possibilities - I don't have a dog in this fight.

[Wilhelm44]

17 minutes ago, zurew said:

Yes I have with the murder scene analogy and you havent addressed it (you havent shown that the bit that you picked out is  false, you just said that that one bit being true in and of itself doesnt make something a cult).

But even if you could show that that bit is false and isn't applicable to actualized.org (which again you havent done yet) - Cult is a cluster concept and this is not the kind of concept where you can just find all the necessary conditions and if you manage to shot down one of those, then the thing is not a cult anymore.

There are many different configuration of facts that can make something a cult. This is why you need to analyze this in clusters of facts and not just bit by bit.

I hear you, it's a complicated matter, and I'm sure I don't have all the info.

I'm a simple man, and I feel there is also some value in being direct and to the point.

Can you honestly say that you feel unsafe, or manipulated for nefarious purposes, here in any way ?

Edited just now by Wilhelm44

[Wilhelm44]

9 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

This can be explained by egoic attachment to the teacher role, narcissism. Inflated ego. 

Could be many motivations behind it. 

It could be a mechanism to funnel out those who would not follow, and keep narcissistic supply close via adoration from students.

Just some possibilities - I don't have a dog in this fight.

I didn't think of that. You're already planning your own breakaway cult, aren't you ?