Why you don't live in the world / But in the Source

[Ishanga]

@James123 Without these attachments then life as we observe it now as it is now on this Earth would not exist, nothing wrong with Attachments, Ego, Identity and such, the wrong as to do with how Aware are You of it, are You aware of Your Attachments, Ego and Identity? If You then there is no problem, You drop it all like You take of Your clothes every day and change into new ones, or none at all. But if Your not aware of it (as is the case with the majority of People alive today), that is where the problem exists, because now You believe, think, understand/experience yourself as that Ego, Attachments or Identity, which limits You in Experiencing anything really significant or profound like real Love or Life itself!

[James123]

2 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

Without these attachments then life as we observe it now as it is now on this Earth would not exist,

It is not. It is only so called happens via attachments to thinking.

4 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

@James123 Without these attachments then life as we observe it now as it is now on this Earth would not exist, nothing wrong with Attachments, Ego, Identity and such, the wrong as to do with how Aware are You of it, are You aware of Your Attachments, Ego and Identity? If You then there is no problem, You drop it all like You take of Your clothes every day and change into new ones, or none at all. But if Your not aware of it (as is the case with the majority of People alive today), that is where the problem exists, because now You believe, think, understand/experience yourself as that Ego, Attachments or Identity, which limits You in Experiencing anything really significant or profound like real Love or Life itself!

Let the moment take care of it, be witness.

Merge with moment, and meet with Love.

No one has control whatsoever. 

[Ishanga]

3 minutes ago, James123 said:

It is not. It is only so called happens via attachments to thinking.

Let the moment take care of it, be witness.

Merge with moment, and meet with Love.

No one has control whatsoever. 

We have control of only how we react or respond, reacting is Unconscious, responding is conscious, as Human Beings this is our greatest potential while Embodied and here on this sort of Earthly Realm.

I agree with Your post above when it comes to the fundamental of life, be the witness, live now in the moment, let things be as they are (Acceptance), fundamentally this is how we should be Experientially within ourselves, this will reflect in how we act and Become in the world!!

Edited Sunday at 08:33 PM by Ishanga

[James123]

6 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

We have control of only how we react or respond, reacting is Unconscious, responding is conscious, as Human Beings this is our greatest potential while Embodied and here on this sort of Earthly Realm.

So called body includes billions of cells, if one has problem, body is done. You have no control whatsoever.

7 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

I agree with Your post above when it comes to the fundamental of life, be the witness, live now in the moment, let things be as they are (Acceptance), fundamentally this is how we should be Experientially within ourselves, this will reflect in how we act and Become in the world!!

That's when one sees that this is not the world, it is the gift, some call it heaven, some call it source. 

Yesterday, I was a smart man that I tried to change the world. Today, I am a wise man that I try to change myself. I don't know who's quote is it. 😊 

[Ishanga]

Just now, James123 said:

So called body includes billions of cells, if one has problem, body is done. You have no control whatsoever.

That's when one sees that this is not the world, it is the gift, some call it heaven, some call it source. 

Yesterday, I was a smart man that I tried to change the world. Today, I am a wise man that I try to change myself. I don't know who's quote is it. 😊 

We have limited control for sure, but as the stories and guru's over the ages have said, you can increase the amount of control you have, even to the point of choosing which body to reincarnate into when the present day body dies and you go into that sort of realm and such...

It was a Rumi quote, as in reality all You have is You, You have never Experienced anything other that what is within Yourself, within this boundary of physical body and such but You can expand the Sensory and Energy Bodies up to a point where it includes all of Existence.. 

There are billions of cells and trillions of Atoms within our own Bodies, each atom is connected to all the other atoms in existence, we can be intouch with that, a sort of grand intelligence and connection, its our human capability, that is the ultimate point of Spirituality, to get to that place, Most never come close, but we have to start somewhere eh:)

[James123]

3 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

We have limited control for sure, but as the stories and guru's over the ages have said, you can increase the amount of control you have, even to the point of choosing which body to reincarnate into when the present day body dies and you go into that sort of realm and such...

Reincarnation is a human beings hope to live more. But this is the end. No more life, heaven etc... We come from nothing, we go back to nothing, which is what We are. How you gain the knowledge of your birth, death is surrendering of it, which is end of all desires, pleasures, pains etc... 

9 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

You can expand the Sensory and Energy Bodies up to a point where it includes all of Existence.. 

There are billions of cells and trillions of Atoms within our own Bodies, each atom is connected to all the other atoms in existence, we can be intouch with that, a sort of grand intelligence and connection, its our human capability, that is the ultimate point of Spirituality, to get to that place, Most never come close, but we have to start somewhere eh:)

If you believe in that and happy about it, that's great 😊 I don't want to destroy your hope and goals 😊 

[Ishanga]

10 minutes ago, James123 said:

Reincarnation is a human beings hope to live more. But this is the end. No more life, heaven etc... We come from nothing, we go back to nothing, which is what We are. How you gain the knowledge of your birth, death is surrendering of it, which is end of all desires, pleasures, pains etc... 

If you believe in that and happy about it, that's great 😊 I don't want to destroy your hope and goals 😊 

Its not a Belief, or a Disbelief, its just an openness to it. we are not limited to believing or disbelieving, we can also just be open to a different possibility, and thru trial and error we find out, I don't know if I'll ever be able to find out for sure if the atoms in my body are in communication/connection with every other atom in existence but who knows eh? 

With reincarnation, some physical verification of some form can via a show I was watching with Neil Degrasse Tyson , in it he said within our DNA is the DNA of a flower, a bee, tree, and so forth, so if that is so it sort of confirms in a physical way our history thru this existence, if the dna of other life is within Us then maybe we were it in a previous life time??

[James123]

3 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

With reincarnation, some physical verification of some form can via a show I was watching with Neil Degrasse Tyson , in it he said within our DNA is the DNA of a flower, a bee, tree, and so forth, so if that is so it sort of confirms in a physical way our history thru this existence, if the dna of other life is within Us then maybe we were it in a previous life time??

When you say now, "I was watching" and thinking the so called past, you actually remember or feel the action now, always now. All the life time or previous life's are happening now, because you are thinking them now. 

Mind is attach with thinking, if attachment with mind dies inevitably attachment with body dies. Then Moment, Source, before so called birth or after death are realized as Being as Now.

Or one realizes this when the attachment with body dies, therefore the mind, which is called psychical death. 

[Ishanga]

4 minutes ago, James123 said:

When you say now, "I was watching" and thinking the so called past, you actually remember or feel the action now, always now. All the life time or previous life's are happening now, because you are thinking them now. 

Mind is attach with thinking, if attachment with mind dies inevitably attachment with body dies. Then Moment, Source, before so called birth or after death are realized as Being as Now.

Or one realizes this when the attachment with body dies, therefore the mind, which is called psychical death. 

Yes, past is just Memory, future is just Imagination, this is super helpful for Surviving another day and this sort of stuff, its not useful for Spiritual Matters and Realization..In reality there is just NOW, life is a everlasting NOW moment..

Edited Sunday at 09:30 PM by Ishanga

[James123]

5 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

Yes, past is just Memory, future is just Imagination, this is super helpful for Surviving another day and this sort of stuff, its not useful for Spiritual Matters and Realization..In reality there is just NOW, life is a everlasting NOW moment..

What is spiritually for you? Gaining, or loosing?

[Breakingthewall]

8 minutes ago, James123 said:

What is spiritually for you? Gaining, or loosing?

Real spirituality is equalizing, aligning and opening. Nothing to do with loosing, silence, be kind, loving and that. It could happen as a consequence, not something that you try. You can try the opening, polish yourself . You need deep understanding of your fear, your structure as a human, not denial. 

[Ishanga]

13 minutes ago, James123 said:

What is spiritually for you? Gaining, or loosing?

You can say it is both, it depends on what language and intention you want to access.. Its Gaining more Possibility in Your Life, or it is Losing everything that is not You in Your Life to realize what You really are, so the language is important if You realize how to use it but in the end it is not about the language or communication, its about what You want out of Life, how You want to Experience it and where does the Potential of Life take You and how far does it go!

[James123]

14 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Real spirituality is equalizing, aligning and opening. Nothing to do with loosing, silence, be kind, loving and that. It could happen as a consequence, not something that you try. You can try the opening, polish yourself . You need deep understanding of your fear, your structure as a human, not denial. 

What you talking about is action, anyone can do it. 

Have you ever considered that non action and being witness is the only way to realize and understand what spirituality is? And being still is so hard because it is completely opposite to human fear and structure?

13 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

You can say it is both, it depends on what language and intention you want to access.. Its Gaining more Possibility in Your Life, or it is Losing everything that is not You in Your Life to realize what You really are, so the language is important if You realize how to use it but in the end it is not about the language or communication, its about what You want out of Life, how You want to Experience it and where does the Potential of Life take You and how far does it go!

Good for you brother. I hope life will bring you the best. 

[Breakingthewall]

9 minutes ago, James123 said:

Have you ever considered that non action and being witness is the only way to realize and understand what spirituality is? And being still is so hard because it is completely opposite to human fear and structure?

23 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

 

Yes of course I did , I was 2 years meditating 2 hours by day or more If I could trying that. It's useful in many senses, make you centered, know yourself deeper, but enlightenment is openess. Meditation can help, but enlightenment is not being witness, is open yourself, it's radically different. 

Edited Sunday at 10:15 PM by Breakingthewall

[James123]

4 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Yes of course I did , I was 2 years meditating 2 hours by day or more If I could trying that. It's useful in many senses, make you centered, know yourself deeper, but enlightenment is openess. Meditation can help, but enlightenment is not being witness, is open yourself, it's radically different. 

Anyone can think, it is easiest thing to do for human being. Moreover, Thinking is always about past or future. Which are based on thoughts, attachments and knowledges, therefore limitation.

What about Now? Have you ever considered the possibility that when one completely align with the Now, there was never a past nor will be future? And now is the being completely open as unlimited, because there is no thoughts, attachments, knowledges are there?

[Breakingthewall]

18 minutes ago, James123 said:

What about Now? Have you ever considered the possibility that when one completely align with the Now, there was never a past nor will be future? And now is the being completely open as unlimited, because there is no thoughts, attachments, knowledges are there?

Obviously I am now, as I told you I meditated a lot, I know all that. The point is that even being now in silence there are energetic barriers that close. They are made by fear and by a mental structure that filters the reality in certain way. Even you are in silence that structure is working in background. It's quite difficult to understand how it closes, you can't force that key by silence, you have to open it flowing with it, aligning it and equalizing it to make it transparent 

Edited Sunday at 10:40 PM by Breakingthewall

[Inliytened1]

8 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Obviously I am now, as I told you I meditated a lot, I know all that. The point is that even being now in silence there are energetic barriers that close. They are made by fear and by a mental structure that filters the reality in certain way. Even you are in silence that structure is working in background. It's quite difficult to understand how it closes, you can't force that key by silence, you have to open it flowing with it, aligning it and equalizing it to make it transparent 

There is none of that when sitting in meditation.   If meditation brings up your past trauma then so be it.  Correct it and move on.  But meditation does not carry baggage in with it.  You carry the baggage . The goal of meditation is to quiet the Mind.

Edited Sunday at 10:48 PM by Inliytened1

[James123]

9 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Obviously I am now, as I told you I meditated a lot, I know all that. The point is that even being now in silence there are energetic barriers that close. They are made by fear and by a mental structure that filters the reality in certain way.

This is based on past and knowledge.

Just simply being aware Now, without any knowledge (which is judgement), ideas, analyzing, or comparison.

Just simply Now.

11 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

you can't force that key by silence, you have to open it flowing with it, aligning it and equalizing it to make it transparent 

Key of flowing is no knowledge, which is no judgement, analyzing, ideas or comparison. 

Just simply accepting the Moment.

[Inliytened1]

 @Breakingthewall make the posts have substance.  If you are full of BS i will see through it and you will be warned. 

Edited Sunday at 11:02 PM by Inliytened1

[Breakingthewall]

9 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

 @Breakingthewall make the posts have substance.  If you are full of BS i will see through it and you will be warned. 

I'm serious in spirituality, not like you. But as you are a mod , you can bully me , that shows your level. Congratulations