Why you don't live in the world / But in the Source

[Inliytened1]

2 minutes ago, James123 said:

So, absolute becomes alive with birth with the mind?

 

The illusion that you aren't God will permeate and stink up the place until you come around to remembering that you are God. 

Yes.  Logic is suffering. Everything is suffering.  But liberation is what frees you. 

Edited Monday at 12:31 PM by Inliytened1

[James123]

4 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

How do you know that before your so called birth there was nothing? Because you don't remember it? Better focus in what is now, then maybe you could open yourself to the nature of the reality.

My lovely, dear friend;

Now is before so called birth. 

your birth, body, entire life story and death is just an attachment with so called thoughts.

You are the Moment, Source, unexperiencable, unspeakable. Forget everything including your birth, whatever left is what is Real / You.

Because, any experience belongs to the so called mind. 

Therefore, you do not remember anything before your so called birth, because there is no mind / you there.

 

[James123]

4 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

The illusion that you aren't God will permeate and stink up the place until you come around to remembering that you are God. 

Yes.  Logic is suffering. Everything is suffering.  But liberation is what frees you. 

Where was that God before so called birth? 

How one can liberate? If the one is separation itself?

Edited Monday at 12:34 PM by James123

[Inliytened1]

5 minutes ago, James123 said:

Where was that God before so called birth? 

How one can liberate? If the one is separation itself?

My claim is that you are God. So you have to be before birth.  Birth was a dream.  Liberate by realizing you aren't the self.

Edited Monday at 12:40 PM by Inliytened1

[James123]

Just now, Inliytened1 said:

My claim is that you are God. So you have to before birth.  Birth was a dream.  Liberate by realizing you aren't the self.

What is God?

If you realize with the experience, knowing or understanding, then God is just an experience.

Can the Truth be experiencable? Even eating an apple is experience. 

[Inliytened1]

26 minutes ago, James123 said:

What is God?

If you realize with the experience, knowing or understanding, then God is just an experience.

Can the Truth be experiencable? Even eating an apple is experience. 

God is whatever you want him to be.

Edited Monday at 01:11 PM by Inliytened1

[James123]

11 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

God is whatever you want him to be.

That's really funny 😊 

[Inliytened1]

11 minutes ago, James123 said:

That's really funny 😊 

But God nonetheless. 

[James123]

57 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

But God nonetheless. 

İf you never heard and learned about word of god, universe, creation, life, you wouldn't be alive. God is your survival my love 😘 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

2 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

They obviously exist since they are. They are another plane of reality, but in essence are the same. Neo advaita says: thought are not real, are maya, the reality is non thought. This is duality. You can be in absolute silence and closed. In the past I believed that of no thought, like anyone else because sounds logical and seductive, but if you are insightful you will intuit that something is missing there. 

Enlightenment is opening yourself to the absolute, the thoughts are an expression of the absolute, like anything else. It's true that if you get attached to the content of the thought you are closed, but same if you are attached to fear, the problem is that the second is not no obvious because it's not conceptual, it's the deep programming of the human form. There are many layers of energetic barriers, and until you don't collapse the duality between thought and reality you can't start to go deep into them

Past and future - can you touch them? Can you smell them? Can you see them? Can you feel them? Right now? No? 

They aren't real. Human concepts. You're going to have to do a lot better if you want to convince me. You are trying to tell me you are experiencing something it is impossible to experience as a human because it is a concept and idea. Bunch of thought.

Suffering? Human made. Point to suffering in your body. Show me. Pain yes, I can punch you in the face. I'm sure your face will hurt. Suffering where? Point. 

It's the friction of your thoughts. You are doing suffering. Remove thought, issue dissolves.

'Another plain of existence' I can't verify that. How did you verify it? Its a concept. Again another thing not real.

You are clinging to logical explanation rather than falling back on real tangible experience - truth.

Don't try to get out of this by dangling carrots 'you will intuit something there' as if I am missing something, when nothing you have said is verified as being true. You are perceiving something in labour of survival and it's is like a cataract over your eyes, obscuring your vision of the truth. 

You are so full of concepts, ideas, thoughts, descriptions, beliefs - these are all stopping you from realizing truth. 

[Breakingthewall]

16 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Past and future - can you touch them? Can you smell them? Can you see them? Can you feel them? Right now? No? 

There are infinite dimensions of being, not all are smelly or tasty. Past and future are concepts that represent the flow of the reality, they are real as concepts. They are made of quadrillions of quantum process in perfect synchronicity that are as real and an universe. In fact, they are an universe itself, everything is. 

16 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Suffering? Human made. Point to suffering in your body.

I don't need to to point it, not everything that exists does in a spacial dimensions. That something is human made doesn't mean that's not real, anything is made by anything else. 

16 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

You are so full of concepts, ideas, thoughts, descriptions, beliefs - these are all stopping you from realizing truth. 

Maybe it's that you can't understand what I'm pointing because it's a broader perspective. Just the possibility 

Btw, I'm used to see that people who believe that they are enlightened because they adopted the neo advaita philosophy become aggressive when they are questioned, without giving solid argument, just: you are in a mental mess, concept are false, you are love! Ban that son of a bitch! 🤣 Seems the norm, it's interesting to see it . 

But give a chance that those neo advaita ideas about thought, past and future are very limited, narrow perspective 

Edited Monday at 02:59 PM by Breakingthewall

[Breakingthewall]

22 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Another plain of existence' I can't verify that. How did you verify it? Its a concept. Again another thing not real.

It's so easy. There are many planes. For example the quantum plane is not the same as matter, life, or the mind. There you have four different planes of reality that, although interconnected, operate according to different laws.

Of course you can say that those are concepts, because Ralston and neo advaita said that reality is "this", but maybe they are wrong 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Okay so you define planes in some strange way. That's the same existence just energy/frequency levels and consciousness.

You are defining words in english in ways others don't. You define yourself by your thoughts, which means there is egoic attachment. I don't want to argue with ego, and this is going no where. 

Gonna tap out because there's no point when you have arbitrary word meaning. 

Also I don't know where you got angry etc from, this is just pissing in cyberspace. Concept battles in bits and bytes on the internet. Honestly if you think it makes me angry - you haven't lived in reality enough. I'm just taking a position and pointing out flaws in thinking - I don't even necessarily agree with what I'm saying, just attempting to raise awareness.