Do you aim for liberation?

[PurpleTree]

Just wondering.

I mean it’s ultimately a silly question.

But i don’t know if for example Leo aims for liberation or what the goal is.

I wonder hom many people here aim for liberation. Vs aiming for let‘s say knowledge and a good life.
 

Having no life vs having a good life.

Edited June 26, 2025 by UnbornTao

[Hojo]

Cant aim for something if I don't know what it is. Its like aiming for a qualia you dont know.

Edited June 26, 2025 by Hojo

[PurpleTree]

1 minute ago, Hojo said:

Cant aim for something if I don't know what it is. Its like aiming for a qualia you dont know.

I know but maybe there’s a seemingly illusory energetic pull?

[Someone here]

Me . I've given up most of my dreams in life to become wealthy or famous or to acquire possessions etc. I think I'm not going to have an extraordinary life in this particular incarnation. I mean everything is possible..but it's just getting clearer and clearer to me that this particular incarnation is going to be mundane and mediocre regardless of minor excitements and drama here and there .

My goal is to get to a state where I could literally sit around all day in a cave or in some wooden hand made house in the middle of wildness just making fire and eating whatever I can hunt like a bird or some seeds and some water and just relax in nature untill I die . Basically I can't relate to society anymore .People are becoming so dumb and disconnected from the truth of who they are and are becoming brainwashed modern civil idiots.  

[Hojo]

@PurpleTree If its pulling you then I don't think you have to aim for it. If you dont know what it is aiming for it could be going the wrong way.

[James123]

1 hour ago, PurpleTree said:

Having no life vs having a good life.

Having no you, life goes itself. Stillness, bliss and real life is inevitable.

[PurpleTree]

23 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@PurpleTree If its pulling you then I don't think you have to aim for it. If you dont know what it is aiming for it could be going the wrong way.

There’s no wrong or right way really seemingly. No direction at all really.  
 

Aimlessly floundering through the universe. Like a flounder floundering in the current of the deep sea. Like a pooh flushing through a toilet. No direction, aimlessly direction oblivion.

[Sincerity]

2 hours ago, Someone here said:

Me . I've given up most of my dreams in life to become wealthy or famous or to acquire possessions etc. I think I'm not going to have an extraordinary life in this particular incarnation. I mean everything is possible..but it's just getting clearer and clearer to me that this particular incarnation is going to be mundane and mediocre regardless of minor excitements and drama here and there .

My goal is to get to a state where I could literally sit around all day in a cave or in some wooden hand made house in the middle of wildness just making fire and eating whatever I can hunt like a bird or some seeds and some water and just relax in nature untill I die . Basically I can't relate to society anymore .People are becoming so dumb and disconnected from the truth of who they are and are becoming brainwashed modern civil idiots.  

Stop bullshitting and go work with your „ordinary” life. That’s the hard thing to do. That’s where you are actually led, seeing beyond what you are writing here.

You will engage in a thousand fantasies of living in some cave or whatever before you confront the simple reality and do what’s actually necessary in your life. That which will heal you and make your actual dreams come true. That’s what is most resisted.

And the way to let go and make your true, „ordinary” dreams happen is to let things be and see when you are led when you’re not insisting on anything. Follow that, it’s natural to you.

Stop running away.

Edited June 26, 2025 by Sincerity

[theleelajoker]

2 hours ago, PurpleTree said:

Just wondering.

I mean it’s ultimately a silly question.

But i don’t know if for example Leo aims for liberation or what the goal is.

I wonder hom many people here aim for liberation. Vs aiming for let‘s say knowledge and a good life.
 

Having no life vs having a good life.

Great question. Maybe it's not totally exclusive and freedom and a good life can co-exist and promote each other?

At least I hope so. Other than that, I feel similar to what @Someone here wrote. So many choices I took for whatever reason that take me on a path of a rather mundane life. And it's not really bad or good. People with more status, money or power don't seem to have less problems while having similar happiness and moments of joy. Same same but different

Edited June 26, 2025 by theleelajoker

[Someone here]

@Sincerity  hi. If you want to discuss this please come meet me in this thread of mine where I discuss some of my obstacles: