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Review Ending unnecessary Suffering by Peter Ralston

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4 hours ago, Joseph Maynor said:

I realize I am creating the suffering.

How did you realize? How are you creating it? Why do you create suffering if your girlfriend have sex with your brother but you don't do if you drink a glass of water?

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24 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Even one page of his Book of Not Knowing can be read, re-read. Over and over. More is received each reading. I particularly adore his passages on meditation / contemplation assignments. 

Could you put an example?

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Just now, Breakingthewall said:

Could you put an example?

Example of one of his contemplation meditations? 

Or book pages? 


It is far easier to fool someone, than to convince them they have been fooled.

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Just now, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Example of one of his contemplation meditations? 

Or book pages? 

Meditation and contemplation, to understand what is exactly his paradigm about suffering and how we are creating it,  also a a page would be interesting 

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@Natasha Tori Maru How can I also have this shift in how I relate to my emotions/feelings/thoughts? I am ,constantly suffering.

update: ah didnt saw your answer, thanks.

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@OBEler lmao that you are asking her that question 

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Don’t go quietly into that dark night

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1 hour ago, OBEler said:

@Natasha Tori Maru How can I also have this shift in how I relate to my emotions/feelings/thoughts? I am ,constantly suffering.

update: ah didnt saw your answer, thanks.

In my opinion, there's no universal formula, since suffering doesn't stem from a conceptual error but from a chronic misalignment between your psyche and external reality.

Spirituality will tell you that external reality is illusory, that you are everything, but if for years you've yielded to micro-humiliations, chosen paths that didn't align with your natural values. values you weren't even aware of because you'd adopted others' values, surrendering your sovereignty, driven by your need to be reflected in society as valid.

if, ultimately, you've prostituted yourself year after year in exchange for approval, you won't stop suffering without becoming a taliban defender of your own values and waging a small (or perhaps not so small) war to rebalance your life. This is a process parallel to the shift from being sustained by the social psyche to being sustained simply by the absolute fact of being .

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@Breakingthewall Its not about values, I dont need any approval. I lost a partner and with that a whole lifestyle, an exiting feeling, purpose, meaning etc.

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Ralston says suffering is inevitable. But unnecessary suffering can be reduced to none. If somebody says since I found spirituality I transcended all suffering you can be sure that person is bypassing. And everything he says should be taken with a grain of salt. 

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Don’t go quietly into that dark night

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51 minutes ago, OBEler said:

@Breakingthewall Its not about values, I dont need any approval. I lost a partner and with that a whole lifestyle, an exiting feeling, purpose, meaning etc.

Yeah sorry I was generalizing thinking in how we humans are today

I think that in any specific case of loss, suffering is inevitable. The key is to accept the situation as soon as possible and restructure your reality based on your new circumstances.

If your operating system functions from within, let's say in emitter mode, this is much easier than if it functions by drawing its energy from the outside, in receiver mode, completely dependent on the environment. There is always some level of dependence; the question is which one predominates.

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