How do some people have seemingly infinite energy?

[Leo Gura]

5 hours ago, Butters said:

Just going over all your replies here with ChatGPT, you seem quite wrong for most of these tbh.

The studies you cite don't seriously challenge what I said.

Like I said, find identical twins born with 70 IQ and cancer.

Cancer late in life is very different from cancer in childhood.

The existence of genetics freaks throws of these ChatGPT ideas in the trash.

Edited June 28 by Leo Gura

[RendHeaven]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

The studies you cite don't seriously challenge what I said.

Like I said, find identical twins born with 70 IQ and cancer.

Cancer late in life is very different from cancer in childhood.

The existence of genetics freaks throws of these ChatGPT ideas in the trash.

Cancer is overwhelmingly environmental, so it's a bad disease to pick as a supporting example for your case.

Humans are rarely, if ever, born out of the womb with cancer pre-installed, or genetically predestined for early cancer. And if they are, then that comes from birth defects that come from the mother's poor environment prior to conception. The simple proof of this is the sheer rarity of cancer prior to the industrial revolution.

Yes, cancer did exist thousands of years back, so you still have a point (random mutation IS real, and genetics do have an influence on probability), but given that 99%+ of cancers are environmentally triggered, it's just not sensible to use it as a touchstone for distinguishing genetics vs environment (If even 1% of cancers were truly spontaneous or unpreventable, we'd expect ancient texts and preindustrial societies to show similar incidence. They don’t.)

your blog example of conjoined twins is a much stronger case for genetics, but most people will dismiss the significance because they don't see how the ramifications circle back to their own personal health predicament

Edited June 29 by RendHeaven
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[CosmicExplorer]

4 hours ago, Joshe said:

What happens when you're on the brink of death and take a pill to cure you? Is that intervention a 3% improvement?

If you hit Tonny Robbins in the head with an axe and after that he loses all his energy, does that mean his energy was 100% environmental thing?

In that discussion I assume at least somewhat normal life, not doing extreme and rare, harmful stuff, like for example having a diet of literally only potato chips or only sugar or being severe alcoholic or lying in bed 24/7

I'm interested in how much is possible to move a needle when you already have at least somewhat normal life, like 95+% of people have. 

[Joshe]

1 hour ago, CosmicExplorer said:

If you hit Tonny Robbins in the head with an axe and after that he loses all his energy, does that mean his energy was 100% environmental thing?

In that discussion I assume at least somewhat normal life, not doing extreme and rare, harmful stuff, like for example having a diet of literally only potato chips or only sugar or being severe alcoholic or lying in bed 24/7

I'm interested in how much is possible to move a needle when you already have at least somewhat normal life, like 95+% of people have. 

Good point.. but the bar is on the floor. Chronic inflammation, poor sleep, and shitty diets are the norm. Heart disease is the #1 killer worldwide, and it doesn't have to be. We’re not doomed by genetics here, we’re just not optimizing.

Diet is the #1 risk factor for heart disease. So if a global shift in diet could eliminate the leading cause of death, how much would the health needle move in the positive direction? 3%?

And this is just one aspect. Not to mention sleep, gut biome, mental health, and the optimizations we've yet to discover. 

If we were to capitalize on every optimization available, we’d move the baseline of human health so far forward that today’s “normal” would look like dysfunction. I don’t know what percentage that would be, but it sure as hell isn’t 3%.

I'm cracking up over here how this is even debatable. 

Edited June 29 by Joshe

[RendHeaven]

8 hours ago, Joshe said:

we’d move the baseline of human health so far forward that today’s “normal” would look like dysfunction.

It is.

[Joshe]

2 hours ago, RendHeaven said:

It is.

I was speaking to the perspective that conveniently didn’t account for it. But yeah, exactly. There’s a lot of room for growth. Effort, if applied, could improve things bigly. 

Edited June 29 by Joshe

[TimStr]

On 28.6.2025 at 9:29 AM, Natasha Tori Maru said:

I did this to myself. I had such a huge realization that every thought to take action that I didn't act on, caused anxiety. If a thought to take action arises, I just do it. Or I take action to progress toward it. I simply stopped attaching any judgement to the act. I don't have so many personal feelings toward actions now - I don't dislike vacuuming. I don't dislike early starts. I don't dislike caring for my plants. I'm cool with folding laundry, paying bills. It's just stuff to do that I don't have any feeling towards.

I get to be serene and focused. In the moment.

@Natasha Tori Maru
This sounds huge! For me, in certain settings I just feel like getting into my own way all the time. Leading myself into almost not taking action at all.

What did you do to achieve this? Was this a singular insight that changed your behavior or was it more like a habit you put into place over time?

Do you think this is possible to replicate?

Edited June 29 by TimStr

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@TimStr

I am familiar with that 'Getting in your own way' all the time.

The shift happened to me around one of my meditation sessions. 

It was literally as if, during the meditation, a torch light was shone on the phrase 'YOU are the obstacle'.

I then tried to remove all attachment to my feelings towards activities of my existence. I tried to remove all judgement. 'This is just a task, no different to any other. Just something I need to make my hands and mind do' 

The very next day I changed, and it was easy to do, and easy to create the habit, because the realisation during meditation was just SO STRONG. I wanted more of that feeling, in this material plain. So I just.. changed. As I repeated the mantra and the process, resistance gave way to clarity, peace.

And with it, came this ability to execute that has remained with me today.

I rarely experience anxiety or negativity now. Negative stuff just rolls off me, like water on Teflon.

A big sense of resolution has stayed with me.

I hope others can experience the same

Edited June 30 by Natasha Tori Maru

[Ramanujan]

@Natasha Tori Maru are you preety india alt account

[Natasha Tori Maru]

13 minutes ago, Ramanujan said:

@Natasha Tori Maru are you preety india alt account

No - but I am unsure why you would ask this question. As there is no way to validate it other than my response. 

I am familiar with the user you refer too - I believe all I noted was an massive post count under her name.

I don't think she posts anymore, though.

What makes you ask?

[Ramanujan]

@Natasha Tori Maruok

[ZhenZhenZhen]

1 hour ago, Ramanujan said:

@Natasha Tori Maru are you preety india alt account

The plot thickens 

[Ramanujan]

1 hour ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

 

What makes you ask?

she make profile pictures similar to yours . 

[TimStr]

On 30.6.2025 at 2:29 AM, Natasha Tori Maru said:

The shift happened to me around one of my meditation sessions. 

It was literally as if, during the meditation, a torch light was shone on the phrase 'YOU are the obstacle'.

I then tried to remove all attachment to my feelings towards activities of my existence. I tried to remove all judgement. 'This is just a task, no different to any other. Just something I need to make my hands and mind do' 

@Natasha Tori Maru

Thanks for explaining.

During your meditation, did you work actively on contemplating this insight or did it just come to you spontaneously?

Since you describe both, the insight and the change of habits, as crucial part of your transformation I wonder how this can be recreated. 

From my point of view I start with „YOU are the obstacle.“ as something I can believe in. I heard it a lot, it makes sense, but I don’t experience what the truth of it means on a very deep level. 

So I wonder how I can work to grasp it deeper in order to make these changes?

Also, I am wondering, how you were able to remove all judgement towards your feelings about doing tasks. 

Your description sounds to me like you were very focused on creating clarity of your perception of these inner workings. 

Edited July 1 by TimStr