Posted June 21 The Iranian trap is a structural dilemma in contemporary geopolitics: the near-impossibility of engaging with Iran - especially for Western powers like the United States - in a way that leads to a stable, productive, or even coherent outcome. Sanctions harden resistance. Detente breeds suspicion. Military threats consolidate internal power. Every move tightens the loop. What we’re dealing with is not a miscalculation, but a deeper, inescapable bind. Iran is not just another authoritarian state pursuing national interest through cynical means. Nor is it a failed theocracy irrationally cut off from the world. It is something more complex - more tragic. It is a nation whose political structure is built around an ideology of martyrdom, sacrifice, and metaphysical opposition. Its posture is not just oppositional, but constitutive. The Islamic Republic defines itself not through what it is, but through what it resists: Zionism, American hegemony, Gulf State decadence, Western secularism. These oppositions are not peripheral - they are doctrinally baked into the system. Iran’s 1979 constitution codifies resistance as the very mode of political legitimacy. This is what gives the Islamic Republic its strange power and its persistent tragedy. The regime is willing - almost uniquely on the global stage - to accept mutually harmful outcomes in the name of spiritual dignity and revolutionary continuity. When Iran chooses symbolic suffering over strategic gain, it is not failing at diplomacy. It is succeeding at being itself. From the outside, this seems absurd. From the inside, it is a moral logic: the willingness to suffer rather than capitulate to systems of power that are perceived as spiritually bankrupt. This is not always cynical. It can be sincerely held. The refusal to become “normal,” to be absorbed into a Western-dominated global order, may involve real costs - but for many in the political and religious elite, those costs are the price of preserving the soul of the nation. And yet this is not the whole story. The ideology of martyrdom coexists with a political reality that is often corrupt, inefficient, and deeply repressive. The state apparatus is not a unified tragic hero, but a fractal mesh of bureaucracies, patronage networks, and rival factions - some pragmatic, some paranoid, some simply opportunistic. The ideals of sacrifice and resistance are often mobilized as cover for internal failures. The sanctions that are supposed to inspire patriotic defiance also provide excuses for mismanagement, repression, and economic stagnation. And the people suffer. Still, it would be a mistake to reduce Iran to its ruling class. Iran is not the Islamic Republic. It is a civilizational world in itself - a culture older than most empires, a society of immense depth, creative brilliance, and complex contradictions. The same nation that produces hardline clerics and nuclear centrifuges also produces world-class filmmakers, artists, poets, and dissidents. Its youth are among the most educated, digitally connected, and intellectually restless in the region. Even under enormous constraints, Iranian society remains vibrantly alive - capable of producing subcultures, aesthetic experiments, and philosophical ferment that defy every cliché about “closed” or “Islamic” societies. There is a certain nobility in the Iranian condition, but also a certain exhaustion. It is noble to resist domination. It is tragic to have no clear path out of that resistance without seeming to betray oneself. Iran stands as a kind of tragic figure on the geopolitical stage - not because it fails to modernize, but because its very structure prevents it from simply becoming like everyone else. To do so would be to lose its soul. And yet, preserving that soul often means stifling the very creativity, vitality, and pluralism that could renew it from within. This is the trap: Iran cannot submit without disappearing. But it cannot endure indefinitely without transforming. Any attempt to “solve” the Iranian question that ignores this internal contradiction - between revolutionary identity and civilizational potential, between metaphysical resistance and social vitality - will fail. The West sees only a problem to be contained. But the truth is more complicated, and more human. Iran is not simply a rogue state. It is not simply a victim. It is not simply a theocracy. It is a nation living in the aftermath of an unfinished revolution, suspended between the dignity of resistance and the possibility of rebirth. It deserves to be understood in full. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 21 I didn’t read all of it but it was well written. But i read you wrote about exhaustion and no clear way out. I think the clear way out for Iran is BRICS aka China and Russia. Who are competing with the US for dominance. So it’s where the rubber meets the road. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 21 Awesome read that made me think. I'll add some nuance in that I think resistance and martyrdom are more a functional tool rather than a foundational identity (same with the concept of jihad in wider Islam). Their identity is capable of resistance but not dependent on it in order to define it self in the negative. Their ethos is one of sovereignty and dignity - which as @PurpleTree pointed out above is also why they fit into the BRICS framework where sovereignty and multipolarism aren't treated as threats. Resistance and martyrdom aren't pathologies (essential) but paths (circumstantial) to being and remaining sovereign in the face of tyranny and domination. They don't resist enemies because they have a fetish for death or need an eternal enemy to affirm their identity - but because a enemy keeps arriving in the form of Western domination through coups, sanctions and encirclement. The trap is the Wests who remain baffled that a nation they tried to conquer refuses to become a client state by sacrificing their sovereignty like others did. The tragedy on the geopolitical stage is that the West insists others dance on their pole, when there are multiple poles that exist and would like to exist. Iran doesn't want to become like everyone else if everyone else means submission to Western hegemony. Thankfully, they have found a home in BRICS multi-polarity, which is carving out a parallel world that respects others distinct from themselves existing within. The tension is that Iran won't normalize to being a pawn, while the West can''t normalize being able to sit down at a table among equals - who instead insists on being at the head of the table. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 28 And of course, most part of Western minds had being indoctrinated that Iran(Persia) are the Villians of History, and the History is very old. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 28 Mersheimer came up with some fascinating facts. He said that the Shah of Iran was interested in developing nuclear weapons and at the time Netanyahu thought that it was a good idea. He further speculated that if the son of the Shah of Iran was reinstated, he would probably develop nuclear weapons because it makes sense strategically. It shows that the whole nuclear weapons thing is a big red herring. Here is a summary from chatgpt: "Yes, it's true that the Shah of Iran showed significant interest in nuclear technology during his reign in the 1970s, and it's also true that there were discussions in Israel, including from figures like Benjamin Netanyahu, that seemed to support Iran’s nuclear ambitions—at the time—when Iran and Israel were allies." Vincit omnia Veritas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 28 (edited) AI Summary by NotebookLM from Google, re-written with Gemini 2.5 Pro (with help of my prompting) - Time context: First video was released in 2024 May 23th The second update in 2025 Jun 18th (A few DAYS before the USA's bombing with the stealth B2 bombers busted deep into the nuclear facilities) Which was the 'Operation Midnight Hammer' on June 21 (June 22 Iranian time) Quote These two video transcripts from the YouTube channel "Predictive History" analyse the potential for, and hypothetical outcome of, a war between the United States and Iran. The speaker, Professor Jang, identifies three primary forces pushing the US towards conflict: the Israel Lobby, the US's "addiction to Empire" (Wall Street), and Saudi Arabia. He postulates that a future Trump presidency, influenced by figures like Jared Kushner and Nikki Haley, would be instrumental in initiating this conflict, citing previous actions like the withdrawal from the Iran nuclear deal. Jang also explores how the US military, despite its "shock and awe" doctrine and hubris, might be strategically outmanoeuvred by Iran due to its mountainous terrain, the difficulty of resupply, and a lack of public support for US intervention within Iran itself. Historical examples, such as Athens' disastrous Sicilian expedition and the Vietnam War, are used to illustrate potential pitfalls like being encircled or caught in a "sunk cost fallacy". The speaker further explains the strategic vulnerabilities of US allies like Saudi Arabia and US military bases in the region. He also considers the potential responses of major global players like Russia and China, suggesting Russia might act as a nuclear deterrent and that China would likely avoid direct intervention. Ultimately, Jang posits that a war could lead to the US becoming militarily bogged down, potentially triggering internal strife within America itself. --- # Analysis of a Potential US-Iran Conflict This analysis, drawn from multiple sources, outlines the high likelihood of a US-Iran war within the next two to four years. It examines the driving forces, a hypothetical conflict scenario, and the probable outcome based on a game theory model. ## Part 1: General Analysis ### Forces Pushing for War * **The Israel Lobby:** A powerful combined force of Jewish interest groups (like AIPAC) and Christian Zionists (like Christians United for Israel) that advocates for war in the Middle East to advance Israeli interests. * **US Addiction to Empire:** The US economy, particularly Wall Street, profits immensely from the global financial system, creating a vested interest in maintaining global dominance through imperial means. * **Saudi Arabia:** Views Iran as an existential threat and seeks to resolve the "Iran problem" soon. The primary conflict in the region is seen as being between Saudi Arabia and Iran. * **Donald Trump as Champion:** These forces are seen as exerting influence through Donald Trump. * His son-in-law, **Jared Kushner**, maintains close ties to both Benjamin Netanyahu (Israel) and Mohammed bin Salman (Saudi Arabia). * **Nikki Haley** is identified as a potential cabinet member in a second Trump administration who would be a major proponent for war. * **Trump's Past Actions:** During his first term, Trump escalated tensions by: * Withdrawing from the Iran nuclear deal. * Moving the US Embassy to Jerusalem. * Sponsoring the Abraham Accords to unite Arab nations against Iran. * Ordering the assassination of General Qasem Soleimani. ### The US Military's Hubris and Flawed Doctrine * Since 2003, the US military has adopted a **"shock and awe"** doctrine, relying on air supremacy, technology, and special forces for what are believed to be quick, decisive, and cheap wars that don't require public support. * This has fostered **hubris**, leading the military to believe it can win any war, despite evidence to the contrary (e.g., the inability to defeat the Houthis in Operation Prosperity Guardian). * Due to this hubris, the US military would likely accept an order to invade Iran, unable to imagine the possibility of defeat. ### Iran's Motivation for War * The **Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC)** desires war to retaliate for decades of US interference, including: * Support for the brutal Shah regime (1953-1979). * Continued protection of Israel and Saudi Arabia. * The assassination of General Soleimani. * There is speculation that the IRGC may have been involved in the death of President Ebrahim Raisi, who was seen as an obstacle to war. * Iran's goal is to provoke a US invasion, believing it can defeat and humiliate American forces on its own terrain. ### Hypothetical US Invasion Scenario: "Operation Iranian Freedom" * **Pretext:** A Trump administration would likely justify a full-scale invasion with allies (UK, Australia, UAE, Poland, Israel, Saudi Arabia) based on five reasons, which the sources note have "absolutely no evidence": 1. **Protecting Iranian People:** Citing humanitarian crises and the need to bring democracy. 2. **Preventing Nuclear Weapons:** Claiming Iran is "one month away" from having nuclear bombs (a claim the US has made for a decade). 3. **Securing Shipping Lanes:** Blaming Iranian proxies for disruptions in the Red Sea and Strait of Hormuz. 4. **Protecting Allies:** Responding to proxy attacks on Saudi Arabia and Israel. 5. **Combating Terrorism:** Attributing a fictional terrorist attack to Iran. * **Initial Phase:** The US would establish air and sea supremacy, landing a large invasion force (100,000 US troops, 200,000 Saudi troops) in southern Iran to prepare for an advance on Tehran. ### Why the Invasion Would Fail * **Flawed Military Doctrine:** The "shock and awe" strategy violates key military principles in Iran's context. * **Encirclment:** Iran's mountainous terrain acts as a natural fortress, trapping invading ground forces. * **Failure to Mass Forces:** Conquering a nation of 90 million would require 3-4 million soldiers, not the 100,000 planned. Tanks are ineffective in mountains. * **Lack of Supply Lines:** Air resupply is easily disrupted in mountainous terrain, leaving troops isolated and vulnerable. * **Fierce Iranian Resistance:** Iranians would resist for several reasons: * **Historical Grievances:** The memory of the US-backed Shah's brutal regime. * **Awareness of Iraq's Fate:** Witnessing the US invasion destroy Iraqi society from 2003-2011. * **National Pride:** A deep identity as heirs to a 5,000-year-old civilization. * **Religious Obligation:** The view of America as "Satan" provides a religious duty to fight. ### Historical Analogues * **Athenian Invasion of Sicily (415 BC):** An imperial power, driven by hubris, launched a massive expedition that was wiped out due to supply issues, leading to the empire's collapse. * **Vietnam War (1960s-1970s):** Characterized by **"mission creep"** and the **"sunk cost fallacy,"** where leaders knew the war was unwinnable but continued to invest resources to save face. * **Russo-Ukrainian War (2022-present):** Highlights strategic errors like refusing to cede space, launching costly counter-offensives, and the influence of extremists. ### Game Theory Analysis of Actors' Motivations * **United States:** Aims to topple the Iranian regime with a ground invasion. * **Iran (IRGC):** Wants to *lure* the US into a ground invasion it believes the US will lose, seeking revenge and humiliation. * **Israel and Saudi Arabia:** Their optimal outcome is the mutual destruction of both Iran and the US military presence in the region, allowing them to become the dominant regional powers. --- ## Part 2: Geo-Strategy Update This update provides a more immediate analysis, suggesting a US-Iran war is highly probable in the near future, likely beginning with bombing campaigns. ### US Strategy for Regime Change: Bombs, Propaganda, and Money The standard US strategy for "regime change"—defined here as the destruction of a society's capacity to function—relies on three pillars, as seen in Iraq: 1. **Decapitation of Leadership:** Removing the entire ruling structure. 2. **Economic Sabotage:** Using sanctions and destroying critical infrastructure (water, electricity). 3. **Fermenting Sectarian Violence:** Exploiting ethnic and religious divisions to divide and conquer. ### Why This Strategy Would Likely Fail Against Iran * **Bombs:** Iran's vast, mountainous terrain makes it resilient to lasting damage from air strikes. * **Propaganda:** US media lacks credibility in Iran and globally. * **Money:** Ineffective due to Iranians' strong sense of national identity and their awareness of what happened to Iraq after the US invasion. ### Iran's Strategic Advantages * **Vulnerable US Allies:** Iran can target critical infrastructure of US allies, such as **Saudi desalination plants** and **oil fields**. * **Strait of Hormuz:** Iran has the ability to close this strait, which handles 40% of the world's seaborne oil trade. * **US Military Bases:** US bases throughout the region become legitimate targets in a state of war. * **Willingness to Fight:** Iranians are seen as having a significant morale advantage and a willingness to die for their country, which is not matched on the American side. * **Decentralized Resistance:** Iran has developed decentralized militias across the country, making it impossible to conquer even if the central leadership in Tehran is eliminated. ### Key Unknowns in the Conflict * **Assassination of the Supreme Leader:** If the US succeeds, it could trigger a destabilizing succession crisis, creating a major advantage for the US and Israel. * **Putin's Response:** While publicly quiet, Putin is believed to be setting a "trap." He likely anticipates a US ground invasion getting bogged down, forcing the US into a **"sunk cost fallacy."** The ultimate goal would be to force a US draft, triggering massive anti-war protests and internal strife, which is seen as the only way to defeat America. * **China's Response:** Despite its reliance on Iranian oil, China is predicted to **remain militarily uninvolved**. Its primary focus is internal stability and it would likely absorb the economic cost of higher oil prices rather than engage in a foreign conflict. * **Use of Nuclear Weapons:** The analysis suggests nuclear weapons **will not be used**. Their use would signal American desperation and incompetence, destroying its global credibility. It is also believed that Putin has made it clear through back channels that he would not tolerate their use against Iran. Edited June 28 by Lucasxp64 ✨😉 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites