How to get meditation to work: deconstruction

[Inliytened1]

6 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

This is just an ideal.

When you know what it is and just do without thinking - this seems obvious.

But you need to get there. 

The way we are raised - inoculated against spirituality, our truth - leaves people totally lost with this stuff.

Deconstruction is what you do to achieve the state.

And in my experience, to get at the being state, there is always some deconstruction needed. 

Even if all it takes is 2-3 minutes of deconstruction after a full day of hard, stressful work. Then into that state.

Like taking a hot shower at the end of the day - you emerge cleansed. 

The shower is like a deconstruction.

 

 

When you brought this to my attention I realized something.  Self inquiry is the form of deconstruction that you are talking about.   When you self inquire you are deconstructing.  But the other forms are just sit and do nothing types of meditation.  You aren't supposed to deconstruct here.  You're suppose to do nothing and think nothing.   This will actually raise your consciousness dial.  If you are spending too much time in thought you can't raise the Consciouness dial.  Don't ask me why it's like this but if I had to answer I would say its because Consciousness in its raw form is much more pure- and its moving away from the egoic state.

Edited July 14 by Inliytened1

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Just now, Inliytened1 said:

 I would say its because Consciousness in its raw form is higher than the ego state.

It's giving cinderblocks of raw truth to the skull <3

[Inliytened1]

1 minute ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

It's giving cinderblocks of raw truth to the skull <3

Precisely. 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

1 minute ago, Inliytened1 said:

Precisely. 

Haha it is one way to eliminate thinking, ay?

[Inliytened1]

4 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Haha it is one way to eliminate thinking, ay?

Just sit without thought. Try it sometime. It's quite challenging.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

1 minute ago, Inliytened1 said:

Just sit without thought. Try it sometime. It's quite challenging.

Nigh impossible. 

I really enjoy it though.

It is the greatest counter to the stress of construction.

The more frequently I touch the state, the greater the stress load I can handle.

 

[Inliytened1]

6 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

 

The more frequently I touch the state, the greater the stress load I can handle.

 

That's your ego fighting back.  It is an uphill battle.  That's why psychedelics are usually superior.  Because they can blow through the ego.  When you do meditation you have to hope the ego will die by surprise. 

Edited July 14 by Inliytened1

[Eskilon]

On 13/07/2025 at 0:41 PM, Carl-Richard said:

To think of deconstruction as a beginner exercise is a misunderstanding. You need to deconstruct a shit ton, again and again in every meditation. Only when you're advanced and on the verge of Enlightenment and the deconstruction is habitual, you can sit and "wait" and amazing things will just happen. But even then, there is often a subtle deconstruction going on at the level of energy:

If the desire for awakening must go, then deconstruction too must go. Everything must go.

Deconstruction is but a temporary means, not the end. Every technique must be like this. Don't get lost in them.

If you find the Buddha on the road, kill him.

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[Carl-Richard]

11 minutes ago, Eskilon said:

If the desire for awakening must go, then deconstruction too must go. Everything must go.

Deconstruction is but a temporary means, not the end. Every technique must be like this. Don't get lost in them.

If you find the Buddha on the road, kill him.

Again, letting go of letting go. You see the trick that is being played? It's letting go all the way down.

[Eskilon]

6 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

Again, letting go of letting go. You see the trick that is being played? It's letting go all the way down.

Haha, you can keep playing this games forever -- doesnt mean you actually get it. Letting go of letting go of letting go. Wanna keep playin?

The mind will use every justification to really let go and see.

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[Inliytened1]

 

The buddah is always watching.  But bailing you fools out is a bore man's game.  

[Carl-Richard]

1 hour ago, Eskilon said:

Haha, you can keep playing this games forever -- doesnt mean you actually get it. Letting go of letting go of letting go. Wanna keep playin?

The mind will use every justification to really let go and see.

Now you're just being a smartass.

[Eskilon]

2 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

Now you're just being a smartass.

Wouldnt need to be one if you didnt tried to be one first

The meta-button is available for all

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[Carl-Richard]

41 minutes ago, Eskilon said:

Wouldnt need to be one if you didnt tried to be one first

The meta-button is available for all

It's all deconstruction. That's not a meta game.

[Inliytened1]

50 minutes ago, Eskilon said:

Wouldnt need to be one if you didnt tried to be one first

The meta-button is available for all

dont let him fool you with his good looks.  He's a wise guy. 

[Eskilon]

23 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

It's all deconstruction. That's not a meta game.

You better bet it is. Why do you meditate in the first place? You want to go meta on this game.

[Inliytened1]

The buddah is watching you guys. For realz.

[Eskilon]

1 hour ago, Inliytened1 said:

The buddah is watching you guys

Ey I need some privacy, tell him to stop watching wtf?

Edited Monday at 10:32 PM by Eskilon

[Inliytened1]

10 minutes ago, Eskilon said:

Ey I need some privacy, tell him to stop watching wtf?

I said the same thing.  Wtf.  Can't do it. He's his own mind. 

[Eskilon]

Just now, Inliytened1 said:

I said the same thing.  Wtf.  Can't do it. He's his own mind.