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Non dual versus God realization

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I think this guy in the video is still a seeker.
 

Also i agree that this Rupert Spira talk of being aware of awareness is bland.

That‘s why i like Tony Parsons and the gang.

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16 hours ago, Keryo Koffa said:

Non-Experience?

Ego=Thinker=Universe=Experience=Experiencer=God are illusion. 

Whatever left is what You really are.


"It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows."

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1 hour ago, James123 said:

Ego=Thinker=Universe=Experience=Experiencer=God are illusion. 

Whatever left is what You really are.

All of that is Experience to me, including the Context and Implications.


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12 minutes ago, Keryo Koffa said:

All of that is Experience to me, including the Context and Implications.

Therefore, all your / the experiences are illusion. 


"It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows."

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5 minutes ago, James123 said:

Therefore, all your / the experiences are illusion. 

What's an Illusion?


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13 minutes ago, Keryo Koffa said:

What's an Illusion?

What is Not truly real. 


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10 minutes ago, James123 said:

What is Not truly real. 

And what isreal?

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8 minutes ago, Keryo Koffa said:

And what isreal?

 


"It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows."

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12 minutes ago, Keryo Koffa said:

And what isreal?

Nothing is really real. And it’s also not really unreal seemingly. Because either is a position. And it’s unknowable.

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15 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

You have not integrated it unless you're living in it regularly, and that's not at all a non-threatening prospect. 

It's feasible. It's common for me to be in a Oneness state of consciousness and still perform my duties from this space. Probably in the next few years my baseline will totally stabilise in Oneness.

I'm doubtful whether that is possible from God Tier levels of consciousness.


God-Realize, this is First Business. Know that unless I live properly, this is not possible.

There is this body, I should know the requirements of my body. This is first duty.  We have obligations towards others, loved ones, family, society, etc. Without material wealth we cannot do these things, for that a professional duty.

There is Mind; mind is tricky. Its higher nature should be nurtured, then Mind becomes Wise, Virtuous and AWAKE. When all Duties are continuously fulfilled, then life becomes steady. In this steady life GOD is available; via 5-MeO-DMT, because The Sun shines through All: Living in Self-Love, Realizing I am Infinity & I am God

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5 minutes ago, Davino said:

 

I'm doubtful whether that is possible from God Tier levels of consciousness.

I think that what Leo tried/is trying but kind of failing. I remember when he went on a solo retreat in the wild and did 5meo every day. Probably to get closer to god or understand himself as god or whatever. Those were the days  🌈 

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19 hours ago, James123 said:

Anything that you can define, experience etc... İs not real awakening or enlightenment. 

1. The fact something is indefinable doesn't mean you shouldn't try to align words as much as possible to that. Otherwise, not doing so is equally problematic or even more.

2. I disagree with the claims: "it's not an experience" for me that is delusional and honestly quite stupid. Experience is an absolute because all that has been happening is experience, always. Therefore if you happen to transcend experiences, I tell you that is also an "experience" because existence is experience is consciousness.

The only reason you claim anything exists or not, is due to the experience of lack or presence of that thing.  

Really reconsider that position because once you think it for yourself and have some awakenings you'll quickly realize it's a misleading notion. Non-experience is a fantasy, how could you claim something not-experienceable as real? Someone had to say non-experience is a thing by experiencing it, at least. Otherwise, if nobody has experienced non-experience what is this absurd point, who is saying that is the nature of enlightenment?

I did my best to try to break you free from this trap, now it's on you.


God-Realize, this is First Business. Know that unless I live properly, this is not possible.

There is this body, I should know the requirements of my body. This is first duty.  We have obligations towards others, loved ones, family, society, etc. Without material wealth we cannot do these things, for that a professional duty.

There is Mind; mind is tricky. Its higher nature should be nurtured, then Mind becomes Wise, Virtuous and AWAKE. When all Duties are continuously fulfilled, then life becomes steady. In this steady life GOD is available; via 5-MeO-DMT, because The Sun shines through All: Living in Self-Love, Realizing I am Infinity & I am God

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5 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

I think that what Leo tried/is trying but kind of failing. I remember when he went on a solo retreat in the wild and did 5meo every day. Probably to get closer to god or understand himself as god or whatever. 

I'll do that once in my life for sure. 30-days 5-MeO-DMT retreat... God...


God-Realize, this is First Business. Know that unless I live properly, this is not possible.

There is this body, I should know the requirements of my body. This is first duty.  We have obligations towards others, loved ones, family, society, etc. Without material wealth we cannot do these things, for that a professional duty.

There is Mind; mind is tricky. Its higher nature should be nurtured, then Mind becomes Wise, Virtuous and AWAKE. When all Duties are continuously fulfilled, then life becomes steady. In this steady life GOD is available; via 5-MeO-DMT, because The Sun shines through All: Living in Self-Love, Realizing I am Infinity & I am God

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5 minutes ago, Davino said:

I'll do that once in my life for sure. 30-days 5-MeO-DMT retreat... God...

I'd rather have a heroic dose of a different Psychedelic/Dissociative every day for variety to (tri)angulate Immersion Breaking for 30 days, I've done 20, 30, 40mg and didn't breakthrough, just observed an induced emotion of overwhelmedness.

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3 minutes ago, Davino said:

I'll do that once in my life for sure. 30-days 5-MeO-DMT retreat... God...

God i bought a little 5meo like two years ago (which wasn’t that easy to find) but i still haven’t tried it.

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Just now, PurpleTree said:

God i bought a little 5meo like two years ago (which wasn’t that easy to find) but i still haven’t tried it.

What are you waitin for?? Don't be scared, just happy little deaths;)

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5 minutes ago, Keryo Koffa said:

I'd rather have a heroic dose of a different Psychedelic/Dissociative every day for variety to (tri)angulate Immersion Breaking for 30 days, I've done 20, 30, 40mg and didn't breakthrough, just observed an induced emotion of overwhelmedness.

Which chemical was your breakthrough? Or was it natural?

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6 minutes ago, Eskilon said:

What are you waitin for?? Don't be scared, just happy little deaths;)

Never felt the call to do it. And found my last mushroom experience exhausting ( a week of paranoia)

And also tried to take nndmt before. But never could get a real dosage in because my throat and body kind of „blocked“ i mean i got some visuals etc.

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4 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

Never felt the call to do it. And found my last mushroom experience exhausting ( a week of paranoia)

And also tried to take nndmt before. But never could get a real dosage in because my throat and body kind of „blocked“ i mean i got some visuals etc.

Fair enough. Whenever you are ready it, we got an eternity for it:)

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