How Do I Understand THIS Girl

[aurum]

1 minute ago, Hojo said:

@aurum Its defensive after being swung at multiple times.

You're definitely being defensive.

That's the whole problem. Stop defending yourself so much.

[Hojo]

@aurum He has too he is already getting mind fucked. This isn't happening to me. I am not being defensive i am telling him he needs to disengage flirting because he's getting mind fucked already after 3 days and the woman is doing it on purpose.

I am saying you can assume she wants to have sex but stop flirting hes already fucked up. If she likes him she will come to him in a way.

Edited June 16 by Hojo

[Princess Arabia]

9 minutes ago, aurum said:

You guys immediately assume the most nefarious motives about women.

Yeah, she's doing survival. But you're still overreacting.

Some of you seem to imagine that sleeping with women involves winning some kind of war against them. That's not what it's like at all.

You want to fight with women, but fighting is not how the dance is done. It's way too combative. People sleep with together when they like each other and when they're having fun.

Try assuming women actually want to sleep with you, even if she's giving you some tests.

That's the thing. Some men think it's playing games. They're not understanding the psychological part of it when a woman sleeps with a man. They sometimes think we're in disgust mode or don't want to; but the stigma holds when we're so used to be labelled as easy or too willing. Not to mention how prostitutes are labelled VS a man that sleeps a round whoring down the town placing his dick wherever he can. He's cheered on while she's black-listed. Not comparing but associating. Lots of things involved psychologically for the female. Not saying if she does, it's harming her, but it's way more that she has to lose.

It's not easy for a way younger female to maneuver this while still interested but wants to make it a choice she won't regret and not seeming like playing games. It's very challenging. Especially if she wants to but more so wants to take her time. Guys thinks because they're so ready and willing that women who are not are just simply playing games. Maybe, but most times it's not a game of I'm just going to let you wait because I can, but my life and feelings are at stake here. Most times it's not even conscious on her part that that's the reason she's the way she is, it's innate. Instead of trying to understand, some men especially the younger one's think all women are like the ones that they label as 'did them wrong'.

[Hojo]

@Princess Arabia

9 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

That's the thing. Some men think it's playing games. They're not understanding the psychological part of it when a woman sleeps with a man. They sometimes think we're in disgust mode or don't want to; but the stigma holds when we're so used to be labelled as easy or too willing. Not to mention how prostitutes are labelled VS a man that sleeps a round whoring down the town placing his dick wherever he can. He's cheered on while she's black-listed. Not comparing but associating. Lots of things involved psychologically for the female. Not saying if she does, it's harming her, but it's way more that she has to lose.

It's not easy for a way younger female to maneuver this while still interested but wants to make it a choice she won't regret and not seeming like playing games. It's very challenging. Especially if she wants to but more so wants to take her time. Guys thinks because they're so ready and willing that women who are not are just simply playing games. Maybe, but most times it's not a game of I'm just going to let you wait because I can, but my life and feelings are at stake here. Most times it's not even conscious on her part that that's the reason she's the way she is, it's innate. Instead of trying to understand, some men especially the younger one's think all women are like the ones that they label as 'did them wrong'.

All of this is a mind game that women play and then act differently towards a man. This makes the man super confused and this type of stuff happens. The men get confused because they are not thinking about any of this. The man is already in a labyrinth of shit he dosent know exists just by engaging sexually with a woman.

Its like the woman is playing a game with herself that the man has to somehow decipher and navigate around. 

Men stop engaging with this madness. Engaging in this will make you insane.

The man is not maneuvering beyond anything that isn't obvious.

Edited June 16 by Hojo

[Princess Arabia]

17 minutes ago, Hojo said:

If a woman is disrespecting you you should be able to disrespect them back when you see them doing it. 

Sometimes out of reacting compulsively and out of control this may happen and forgivingly so, but it's not necessary or even the more mature way to deal with this. Most times if I've been disrespected or felt that way, my response as long as I'm not in a state as I stated above, is to respond back respectfully but in a stern manner and state that I'm through with the engagement or something appropriate depending on the circumstance. No need to disrespect back and turn two wrongs into a right. 

[Hojo]

@Princess Arabia I have a feeling she will like it.

[Princess Arabia]

1 minute ago, Hojo said:

@Princess Arabia

All of this is a mind game that women play and then act differently towards a man. This makes the man super confused and this type of stuff happens. The men get confused because they are not thinking about any of this. The man is already in a labyrinth of shit he dosent know exists just by engaging sexually with a woman.

Its like the woman is playing a game with herself that the man has to somehow decipher and navigate around. 

Men stop engaging with this madness.

This is because of inexperience and immaturity. After a man has had enough engagements with women, he can tell the difference when one is playing games, the female herself is immature and too young to understand and know how to respond to him herself or if she's just being as a woman should careful with whom she lets her guard down with. It's up to the man to learn about how women respond to certain circumstances before he tries to sleep with any. If he misreads her intentions, that's up to him. Not all women are trying to manipulate and play games. It's a safety precaution mechanism that some younger women navigate very poorly because of inexperience and ignorance.

[Hojo]

@Princess Arabia I know its a precautionary method. My argument is that the precautionary method is malicious. Its a mind game she is playing on him on purpose. Because of made up stuff he dosent know about. He dosent have any context into what is going on in her mind. She has all this precautionary methods that he dosent know about and he's getting mind fucked. This is bullying.

Why would he play into someone who is manipulating situations because they automatically assume he's a rapist or psychopath?

Thats playing into madness. Its not happening.

Edited June 16 by Hojo

[Princess Arabia]

3 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@Princess Arabia I have a feeling she will like it.

This is the pill stuff you've been hearing and have subscribed to. Just because a female is dysfunctional and likes when a man disrespects her, doesn't mean he has to ascribe in that behavior to please her dysfunctional wishes. It says more about him than it does about her. Dysfunctional is dysfunctional, engaging in it just to attain something for your own benefit puts that person a step beneath. It's like a man thinking prostitution is an immoral thing and curses it but goes out and engages in it just because he's horny. Then curses prostitutes the next day or wants to kill them. 

You don't think too highly of women by saying that you have a feeling she would like being disrespected and not knowing her personally. Seems like a general belief you have of how most women are.

[aurum]

26 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@aurum He has too he is already getting mind fucked. This isn't happening to me. I am not being defensive i am telling him he needs to disengage flirting because he's getting mind fucked already after 3 days and the woman is doing it on purpose.

I am saying you can assume she wants to have sex but stop flirting hes already fucked up. If she likes him she will come to him in a way.

I agree he was being too needy.

But still, your reponse is not a solution.

[aurum]

28 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

That's the thing. Some men think it's playing games. They're not understanding the psychological part of it when a woman sleeps with a man. They sometimes think we're in disgust mode or don't want to; but the stigma holds when we're so used to be labelled as easy or too willing. Not to mention how prostitutes are labelled VS a man that sleeps a round whoring down the town placing his dick wherever he can. He's cheered on while she's black-listed. Not comparing but associating. Lots of things involved psychologically for the female. Not saying if she does, it's harming her, but it's way more that she has to lose.

It's not easy for a way younger female to maneuver this while still interested but wants to make it a choice she won't regret and not seeming like playing games. It's very challenging. Especially if she wants to but more so wants to take her time. Guys thinks because they're so ready and willing that women who are not are just simply playing games. Maybe, but most times it's not a game of I'm just going to let you wait because I can, but my life and feelings are at stake here. Most times it's not even conscious on her part that that's the reason she's the way she is, it's innate. Instead of trying to understand, some men especially the younger one's think all women are like the ones that they label as 'did them wrong'.

Yup that's a good point.

Sometimes it's more her hang up than anything in particular about the guy.

[Princess Arabia]

12 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@Princess Arabia I know its a precautionary method. My argument is that the precautionary method is malicious. Its a mind game she is playing on him on purpose. Because of made up stuff he dosent know about. He dosent have any context into what is going on in her mind. She has all this precautionary methods that he dosent know about and he's getting mind fucked. This is bullying.

Why would he play into someone who is manipulating situations because they automatically assume he's a rapist or psychopath?

Thats playing into madness. Its not happening.

Your reasoning here is off. She cannot be responsible for his ideas of her. If he doesn't know what's on her mind that does not automatically make her manipulative and a bully. You've went extreme with the rapist and psychopath thing. She might not even have an opinion one way or another and is trying to feel her way into the situation. You have to understand that youth, immaturity, age and lack of experience plays a role in how people respond to each other in these circumstances. 

Edited June 16 by Princess Arabia

[Hojo]

12 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

This is the pill stuff you've been hearing and have subscribed to. Just because a female is dysfunctional and likes when a man disrespects her, doesn't mean he has to ascribe in that behavior to please her dysfunctional wishes. It says more about him than it does about her. Dysfunctional is dysfunctional, engaging in it just to attain something for your own benefit puts that person a step beneath. It's like a man thinking prostitution is an immoral thing and curses it but goes out and engages in it just because he's horny. Then curses prostitutes the next day or wants to kill them. 

You don't think too highly of women by saying that you have a feeling she would like being disrespected and not knowing her personally. Seems like a general belief you have of how most women are.

Another gaslight on my character. You cant not do it when defending women.

 

Your analogy is trash its more like if the both of them were flirting and then she leaned in for a kiss and then he did and then she did and then he did and then she did and then he did and then she pulled away for no reason.

Hes like why did she do that? And she did it because of some random made up schizophrenic survival technique. You are held accountable for survival techniques this one is malicious.

And then she poked him in the side and giggles and leans in for a kiss and he does and then she does and then he does and then she pulls away.

 

?????? He should put up with this 100 percent. Its his fault and I hate women because I am telling him to disengage.

Men would not engage in this madness.

Edited June 16 by Hojo

[Princess Arabia]

6 minutes ago, Hojo said:

Another gaslight on my character. You cant not do it when defending women.

 

Your analogy is trash its more like if the both of them were flirting and then she leaned in for a kiss and then he did and then she did and then he did and then she did and then he did and then she pulled away for no reason.

Hes like why did she do that? And she did it because of some random made up schizophrenic survival technique.

And then she poked him in the side and giggles and leans in for a kiss and he does and then she does and then he does and then she pulls away.

 

?????? He should put up with this 100 percent. Its his fault and I hate women because I am telling him to disengage.

Men would not engage in this madness.

Ok, you're right.

[Hojo]

@Princess Arabia Praise sweet baby Jesus.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@Princess Arabia You got the jukes and have solid points, but with regards to @Hojo I would call it a day.

Their mind is so infected with pill ideas, the insidious loops they jump through are completely logical to them.

The twisted part is, there are some logical truths interwoven in the mess. 

Also, whoever they are they have zero experience in the real world

[Hojo]

@Natasha Tori Maru All of these are projections and attacks on a character you actually are. By definition of how the mind works. You can attack a whole group but as soon as you start engaging with individuals you are projecting. You will notice I never insult someone's worldview I state mine and get attacked by projections.

Women need to mind control men to survive. These games are mind control to men. They make men doubt themselves and weaken them. For no reason beyond malicious behavior from a woman defending herself from something that's not there.

These games include you insulting my character based on an opinion or several opinions. If I was projecting I would be the one insulting you but I'm not. I'm explaining myself and being insulted every interaction.

I hate women and have no experience because I tell men not to engage with women's mean schizophrenic survival mechanism. 

Nothing i said was an attack i am making an analysis. I told him he could disrespect her because she was doing it to him and that makes me a woman hater with no experience. Get real.

Edited June 16 by Hojo

[AION]

Dating is not charity man. It is about the survival of your genes. The problem of most guys is that they aren't as shameless about self survival. Guys have this syndrome of self sacrifice and putting a girl on the pedestal. It will never work. OP will never get what he wants from this girl because he is still operating in the feminist paradigm. That girl is just playing with you. She is very insecure it is just using you for her self esteem. You have to give her what she wants to get access to what you want. It is basic negotiation skills and a little “tiptoeing”. 

Edited June 16 by AION

[meta_male]

On 14.6.2025 at 3:14 PM, Nito said:

Please help me out in this post, idk what to do from here on out 

Basically, go about your business. You asked her out and if it was a yes you would have gone out with her instead of analyzing her actions. If a girl is into you she will find a way, especially since you've made it easy for her to walk through the door, which she hasn't. That's all you gotta know. Don't bend over backwards for breadcrumbs.

Edited June 16 by meta_male

[Nito]

@meta_male completely agree with you. Thank you for the hard truth. It means a lot