Your Last Incarnation

[jimwell]

@Water by the River Could you verify the accuracy of the claims in this video? Do you even believe in reincarnation?

I think that the type of person who experiences the phenomena described in this video is somebody who is highly spiritual or who possesses a high state of consciousness. I don't consider reincarnation to be truth, but I'm open to the possibility that it's real.

[theleelajoker]

Watched it an wondered about the source. "Buddhist teaching" is very broad, there are many buddhist master, teachings, schools etc.

Anyone with background knowledge? Is there a real buddhist background or is it flavored with new age stuff?

[Breakingthewall]

It's impossible to understand the issue of reincarnation from the perspective of the self, which returns again and again. The only thing that can be reincarnated is a pattern of existence. The self that passes from one life to another is unreal. The one looking through your eyes is reality. Reality is looking through all eyes. Therefore, you, as reality, are not going to be reincarnated. Reality is not someone; it is totality, the absolute. It is not jumping from life to life; it is already infinite lives. The self that seems to jump from life to life is just another structure that reality takes, a form that, without the substance that reality gives it, is nothing.

[theleelajoker]

@Breakingthewall

Yeah everything is nothing.

But who cares if you call it self or structure, or energy pattern, or fractal or pattern of existence? Just different words?

Or am I missing the point you're making? 

[Breakingthewall]

32 minutes ago, theleelajoker said:

Yeah everything is nothing.

 everything is the totality. What is nothing is the form without the infinite depth that is behind, but the depth is behind everything . That of nothing is impossible, the infinity is absolutely expanded by default, it's not infinite potential. Potential means something that could be, and the totality is total, it's already done. I mean that saying that the reality is potential is focusing in the form, if you focus in the essence, there is not potential, it's totally done since always 

32 minutes ago, theleelajoker said:

who cares if you call it self or structure, or energy pattern, or fractal or pattern of existence? Just different words?

Because in the other hand the form is, always there is form, it's impossible being without any expression, and expression is always the case, but the expression by itself is just a form, a pattern of existence. It's a pattern, a fractal, because it's the results of infinite relative movements of the whole, it's not a dream. A dream implies someone creating something, it's not that , it's the reality adopting a pattern created by infinite patterns. Everything is infinite, and in its essence it's infinitely alive. The fact of infinity makes that. The reality is absolute plenitude, because it's infinite. That of nothing, emptiness, potential, is absolutely wrong, it's impossible. The very fact of infinitude means that always the reality is total, absolutely done to infinite power, flowing in itself absolutely alive, always. 

Edited 15 hours ago by Breakingthewall

[theleelajoker]

3 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

 everything is the totality. What is nothing is the form without the infinite depth that is behind, but the depth is behind everything . That of nothing is impossible, the infinity is absolutely expanded by default, it's not infinite potential. Potential means something that could be, and the totality is total, it's already done. I mean that saying that the reality is potential is focusing in the form, if you focus in the essence, there is not potential, it's totally done since always 

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I agree and important for practical life bc language sucks here in my opinion. "Could have, should have etc" is talk about potential, but it's fiction. It's is what it is, here and now, and if you "could" have done it, why not do it? Hence, everybody is always doing the best he/she can. Marc Aurel said sth like this (stoicism) but took me long time to get this 

6 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

 Because in the other hand the form is, always there is form, it's impossible being without any expression, and expression is always the case, but the expression by itself is just a form, a pattern of existence. It's a pattern, a fractal, because it's the results of infinite relative movements of the whole, it's not a dream. A dream implies someone creating something, it's not that , it's the reality adopting a pattern created by infinite patterns. Everything is infinite, and in its essence it's infinitely alive. The fact of infinity makes that. The reality is absolute plenitude, because it's infinite. That of nothing, emptiness, potential, is absolutely wrong, it's impossible. The very fact of infinitude means that always the reality is total, absolutely done to infinite power, flowing in itself absolutely alive, always. 

I follow more or less.

- Is there really no one in control? Your argument is logical but it feels different for me. For now:)

- Don't get the "nothing, emptiness....is wrong" part. Can you give a concrete example pls? Might help me get your point 

 

 

[Breakingthewall]

2 hours ago, theleelajoker said:

Don't get the "nothing, emptiness....is wrong" part. Can you give a concrete example pls? Might help me get your point

The absence of limits implies that infinity is infinitely expanded. It is not something that begins and develops; it is always total. The apparent development of reality is an internal flow, since nothing is external, nor is any real expansion possible. No real change or movement, it is already total. But equally, the absence of limits makes constant relative movement inevitable, the apparent division into infinite perspectives. They don't go anywhere and they have no purpose; they are inevitable. So, the essence of reality, what lies behind form, its source, is total infinity. To say that this is nothing is absolutely absurd; it is everything. You could say it's nothing that you can define with a limited mind, but that doesn't mean "nothing." All that "nothing" stuff is Buddhist stories meant to seem mysterious. Or perhaps they're primitives, and for them, what you can't touch and see is "nothing." From a modern perspective, that "nothing" stuff is out of place.

2 hours ago, theleelajoker said:

Is there really no one in control? Your argument is logical but it feels different for me. For now:)

It's impossible. There is relative control, consciousness and intelligence are infinite, since they are, but ultimately what can arise arises. From an infinite perspective any control would be a limit, and limits are local but not absolute since absence of limits is a fact. The only possible control is synchronicity, since no change is absolute, any change is relative, that means that must be synchronized with anything else. "Anything else" means everything else, the whole of the infinity manifested, in absolute perfect synchrony, if not that movement just doesn't appears, because it's not absolute, it's just a reflection. Anything that appears are reflections. Again, you could say that a reflection is nothing, but it's confusing, a reflection is a reflection. Then you could say that it doesn't exist because it's a dream, or not material, or anything. Material is made of energy and energy is made or relations, information, relative changes of states between infinite fields, and a field is just the reality, and the reality is the unlimited that is because it's unlimitation. Break your limits and you will see what you are. 

[theleelajoker]

 For first part:

• Ok, got the "nothing is wrong" part now. Thanks. 
• "But equally, the absence of limits makes constant relative movement inevitable, the apparent division into infinite perspectives"
• Why does absence of limits  make relative movement inevitable? Why has there to be movement?

For the second part:

• Ok, I am following re synchronicities, and movement is relative. Up until the sentence ending with "it's just a reflection"
• And then you make a difference between relative movements and reflections?  Here I got lost
• I am following with the rest - reality as relations, as information, as changes of state 

[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, theleelajoker said:

Why does absence of limits  make relative movement inevitable? Why has there to be movement?

That's simple, because the absence of movement is non existence, reality in non existent state. Then In absence of limitations is some moment any fluctuation will happen, so "in some moment" is always, because stillness is "never". Then another fluctuation will happen. As there are no limits, there will happen infinite fluctuations .

1 hour ago, theleelajoker said:

And then you make a difference between relative movements and reflections? 

Relative and reflection means the same, it's a change from the perspective of anything else that is in different state, without that perspective there is no change, then any change it's the absolute reflecting in itself. 

[ChrisZoZo]

Last in this universe you got an infinite number of universes to explore!

 

[theleelajoker]

40 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

That's simple, because the absence of movement is non existence, reality in non existent state. Then In absence of limitations is some moment any fluctuation will happen, so "in some moment" is always, because stillness is "never". Then another fluctuation will happen. As there are no limits, there will happen infinite fluctuations .

Relative and reflection means the same, it's a change from the perspective of anything else that is in different state, without that perspective there is no change, then any change it's the absolute reflecting in itself. 

First part:

Ok get the idea. I once became unconscious, step by step everything became darker and darker before my eyes. Then it was all black and then the "blackness" disappeared, turning into  "         "

( "    " meaning--> nothing, non-experience)

Second part:

Lost in words. Lost in abstraction and definitions.

If you still have the patience - can you give a concrete example? For instance, "I walk down the street and this and that happening is the change, the reflection, perspective..."

 

[Breakingthewall]

5 hours ago, theleelajoker said:

walk down the street and this and that happening is the change, the reflection, perspective..."

Everything that happens is change; without change, nothing happens, then no change doesn't exist, because existing is change. Existence is the manifestation of reality. Reality still is unmanifested. 

Absolutely everything that exists is in constant motion by definition; static doesn't exist. It may seem that in meditation you are in a static state, but you are a relational node resulting from infinite relationships or relative state changes occurring at infinite levels. The power of infinity is, precisely, infinite. Everything that appears is raised to the infinite power. You walking down the street, if you begin to isolate all the relative movements that are taking place, from the air around you, to your body composed of trillions of cells in perfect coordination, which are composed of quadrillions of molecules placed in exact positions composed of atoms, in turn composed of stable and perfect energetic vibrations. If you zoomed in, they would be revealed as an infinitely unfolding flow of information, opening doors to inaccessible dimensions that in turn would house infinite dimensions, all in constant vibration, never still, since still = never. It is infinity, which as its name indicates, is infinite, and it's flowing without pause, because pause is not. 

Edited 3 hours ago by Breakingthewall

[PurpleTree]

I think this is my second or third last.